The suspension is just weird. Legal wager. Not under contract at the time. Facing a punishment that doesn't make sense... while the same league allows domestic violence offenders to suit up.
Excellent expose, John. It’s about the arrogance of power. It’s time for the players to take action on behalf of this minor leaguer. Or perhaps the players operate under the “I got mine, let him get his own” philosophy.
Nicely done JC . MLB gambling rules are vital. But MLB needs a wake-up call. Do they uderstand that what happend to the PGA via LIV became reality in large part because of rigid and blockheaded thinking by PGA ruling crowd? When things become unreasonable change ocurrs and the offending group loses. What you described is unreasonable.
Absolutely ridiculous. Guy doesn't have any affiliation with professional baseball in any way shape or form because MLB left him on his own to survive. Then he gets hired back and this crap. I stopped watching MLB at the beginning of the pandemic when billionaire owners couldn't get agreement with millionaire players on how to navigate play during the global crisis. They are like Keystone Kops on this one. If I were prominent attorney who specialized in large corporate employees C - Level cases... I'd take this one for free and sue MLB's a$$ off. And I'd win the case and free publicity!
remind me? What law did he break, since he was no longer under contract to anyone? Does this mean if a college athlete takes up baseball and has the gift, baseball can look and find out in his pat he gambled on baseball games he would not be allowed ?
MLB says he violated the terms of his agreement... that even as his contract was "suspended" he was still required to follow their rules. He agrees with that. Thinks that the one-year suspension should have sufficed. It's just messy.
Obviously to all of us except MLB, Bauer got hosed. MLB has to get these punishments organized based on the seriousness of the “crime.” MLB also has to quit making the game more and more vanilla! If you can’t hit against the shift, learn to and by the way, learn to bunt! I kind of get the pitch clock but only allowing two tosses to first base is stupid. And increasing the size of the bases is ridiculous. Next MLB will say the dimensions of all ball parks have to be the same! Stupid is as stupid does.
Yep, me as well after baseball. Ten men, sometimes four outfielders, sometimes five infielders tons of fun but it wasn’t baseball. It’s like comparing tennis to pickle ball. Lol
Don't agree with the tennis/pickleball comparison. If you have played tennis and tried pickle ball it's not even close. Pickleball is closer to ping pong without a table. 😎
I'm not married to my position, but I have played tennis at a high level and pickle ball... not the same as fastball v softball. Watch some women's softball and you'll see... top class sport, elite athletes. Eddie Feigner made MLB hitters look silly striking them out from 2nd base. 😎 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaV1eep_VlM
John - you have hit the hypocrisy nail on the head. Why is it that there is no common sense when interpreting rules that leave so much to interpretation?
Bauer remains a free agent after getting cut by the Dodgers, presumably after they figured out no one else wanted him.
It is dumb, however, that he's been reinstated while this kid has not. Kenesaw Mountain Landis would probably see this situation as just and fair, but it's not 1923 anymore.
Well, one of us is wrong. But his name ain't Maverick. He is not eligible to go on the ballot. "Bartlett Giamatti after an investigation into whether Rose bet on baseball games, including those involving the Reds teams for which he played and coached. Part of the settlement included a lifetime ban from baseball, which also makes him ineligible to appear on the hall of fame ballot." The Pete Rose Rule has never been overturned. What say you John Canzano?
The ubiquity of wagering on sport in the US is staggering - as it has been in nations around the world for many years. You can agree or disagree if sports wagering is healthy for people or communities - but you cannot have it both ways. Manfred comes off as tone deaf here.
The punishment should fit the crime. In this case, it obviously does not.
Agree.
I just don’t get how a player can still play after a domestic dispute but an unemployed player bets on some games and is ostracized by the league.
The suspension is just weird. Legal wager. Not under contract at the time. Facing a punishment that doesn't make sense... while the same league allows domestic violence offenders to suit up.
sounds like a great lawsuit to me...unequal punishment. amongst other things.
I can't believe this isn't a bigger story, it should be reported on nationally. This is just nuts.
It soon will be. Watch.
I’m speechless yet not really surprised. Hopefully your article brings his story to the attention of someone who can rectify the problem!
They never talk about how many sports owners own pieces of Draft kings and fanduel.
They're all benefitting.
Excellent expose, John. It’s about the arrogance of power. It’s time for the players to take action on behalf of this minor leaguer. Or perhaps the players operate under the “I got mine, let him get his own” philosophy.
Where would this go if Bayer has a nuts-on, 100 mph fastball?
Yup
“Hypocrisy” is NewSpeak for “Professional Athletics”
GO DAWGS
Nicely done JC . MLB gambling rules are vital. But MLB needs a wake-up call. Do they uderstand that what happend to the PGA via LIV became reality in large part because of rigid and blockheaded thinking by PGA ruling crowd? When things become unreasonable change ocurrs and the offending group loses. What you described is unreasonable.
The fact that he's ineligible... three years later... is ridiculous.
Absolutely ridiculous. Guy doesn't have any affiliation with professional baseball in any way shape or form because MLB left him on his own to survive. Then he gets hired back and this crap. I stopped watching MLB at the beginning of the pandemic when billionaire owners couldn't get agreement with millionaire players on how to navigate play during the global crisis. They are like Keystone Kops on this one. If I were prominent attorney who specialized in large corporate employees C - Level cases... I'd take this one for free and sue MLB's a$$ off. And I'd win the case and free publicity!
remind me? What law did he break, since he was no longer under contract to anyone? Does this mean if a college athlete takes up baseball and has the gift, baseball can look and find out in his pat he gambled on baseball games he would not be allowed ?
MLB says he violated the terms of his agreement... that even as his contract was "suspended" he was still required to follow their rules. He agrees with that. Thinks that the one-year suspension should have sufficed. It's just messy.
So,, being under "suspension", he is still under the same rules as anyone else, as someone else pointed out, what if he were a top talent....
Pete Rose?
Wait, Pete who?
Pete is still eligible for the HOF if he gets voted in, his name has been on all the ballots
Obviously to all of us except MLB, Bauer got hosed. MLB has to get these punishments organized based on the seriousness of the “crime.” MLB also has to quit making the game more and more vanilla! If you can’t hit against the shift, learn to and by the way, learn to bunt! I kind of get the pitch clock but only allowing two tosses to first base is stupid. And increasing the size of the bases is ridiculous. Next MLB will say the dimensions of all ball parks have to be the same! Stupid is as stupid does.
Yep, me as well after baseball. Ten men, sometimes four outfielders, sometimes five infielders tons of fun but it wasn’t baseball. It’s like comparing tennis to pickle ball. Lol
Don't agree with the tennis/pickleball comparison. If you have played tennis and tried pickle ball it's not even close. Pickleball is closer to ping pong without a table. 😎
I’m referring to baseball vs. softball. It’s completely relevant to tennis/pickle ball. Baseball is the standard as Is tennis vs pickle ball.
I'm not married to my position, but I have played tennis at a high level and pickle ball... not the same as fastball v softball. Watch some women's softball and you'll see... top class sport, elite athletes. Eddie Feigner made MLB hitters look silly striking them out from 2nd base. 😎 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaV1eep_VlM
I remember
John - you have hit the hypocrisy nail on the head. Why is it that there is no common sense when interpreting rules that leave so much to interpretation?
Great story John. Couldn’t agree more. All the major leagues tolerate so much worse than sports betting.
Hypocrisy is, indeed, the operative word here.
Bauer remains a free agent after getting cut by the Dodgers, presumably after they figured out no one else wanted him.
It is dumb, however, that he's been reinstated while this kid has not. Kenesaw Mountain Landis would probably see this situation as just and fair, but it's not 1923 anymore.
MLB needs to do this to justify keeping Pete Rose out of the Hall. Ironically nowadays gambling is a money maker for the MLB, NBA and NFL.
Nailed it Chris Pilotti... they are waiting for Charlie Hustle to die so they don't look so vindictive every time his name comes up. http://twsthewrightstuff.blogspot.com/2015/02/a-red-rose-in-hall-thorns-and-all.html
Wrong, Pete is eligible for the Hall if they vote him in
Well, one of us is wrong. But his name ain't Maverick. He is not eligible to go on the ballot. "Bartlett Giamatti after an investigation into whether Rose bet on baseball games, including those involving the Reds teams for which he played and coached. Part of the settlement included a lifetime ban from baseball, which also makes him ineligible to appear on the hall of fame ballot." The Pete Rose Rule has never been overturned. What say you John Canzano?
Big difference. Remember se was involved and employed with mlb.
The ubiquity of wagering on sport in the US is staggering - as it has been in nations around the world for many years. You can agree or disagree if sports wagering is healthy for people or communities - but you cannot have it both ways. Manfred comes off as tone deaf here.