I'd be willing to bet that there are more households in the PAC-12 footprint with access to Amazon Prime than there are to the PAC-12 Networks. Not so sure about Apple. And it won't surprise me that soon someone will develop an APP or piece of hardware that will make swapping between streaming/cable or streaming/streaming as simple as it…
I'd be willing to bet that there are more households in the PAC-12 footprint with access to Amazon Prime than there are to the PAC-12 Networks. Not so sure about Apple. And it won't surprise me that soon someone will develop an APP or piece of hardware that will make swapping between streaming/cable or streaming/streaming as simple as it is to switch channels now on your tv. The market for that capability will be huge.
Zero chance that streaming game swaps will be anywhere near as simple & fast as cable or satellite anytime in the next 10 years (if not longer). It's a bandwidth problem. The swapped-to game would have to be in full stream prior to the switch and the TV would have to be able to buffer that extra bandwidth.
I don't think I'd go that far. I think switching won't be a big deal. Amazon Prime is part of the way there subscription wise by enabling you to add/watch subscriptions from other providers like HBO, Stars, AMC, etc.
You bring up a good point about buffering and switching time. Not a big deal for me though.
Is that honestly that big of a problem though? I know people like to flip between games BUT one of the benefits of streaming is that its on ALL devices. You can have a game on your TV, phone etc. I have google TV and often have one running on my tablet and carry it around the house or sit next to me while watching another game on tv. Also changing games with google tv is really easy and quick, there is almost no buffering maybe 1 second. Switching apps is a is a bit more annoying but still not bad either.
I think the current distribution of the Pac-12 Networks has lowered our tolerance a ton. I have had a lot of trouble finding it when I travel. Finally settled on Sling. I'd like to avoid that in the future.
Ditto. Sling didn’t even capture all the games, even with the sports bundles. If I recall correctly, Fox Sports wasn’t on there. Just FS1 or something from their network.
During march madness google tv had up to 4 games at a time (depending on how many were playing at the time) on at the same time. You could watch all 4 at once on the same screen and choose which you listened to instantly with the remote. it was great and worked flawlessly for me.
I'm with you JC. Personally, I'm OK with a little delay when switching between games. I've used the streaming version of Sunday Ticket for years and I've learned to live with it
This absolutely YES. The biggest thing I hear is that people cant find or get the games because they are on pac12 an even in the NW no one has access unless they either buy sling or have comcast (F that). I would LOVE to just be able to know that the game is on at x time on amazon and just be done with it. yes please! Apple is just trading one walled garden for another walled garden we do NOT need to get into.
Yeah but then we go back to reach and distribution, reach and eyes on games. How many people have apple plus? its not many more than have access to p12 network now. I have no doubt that its better or a good product, but its more about not forcing people to purchase another product just to get access to p12 content. Most people already have amazon.
I think Amazon/Apple are in an entirely different league from P12 networks. Branding, access, ease of use, etc are night and day different. Distribution will look entirely different and exposure far better. Not even a real comparison IMO
I'd be willing to bet that there are more households in the PAC-12 footprint with access to Amazon Prime than there are to the PAC-12 Networks. Not so sure about Apple. And it won't surprise me that soon someone will develop an APP or piece of hardware that will make swapping between streaming/cable or streaming/streaming as simple as it is to switch channels now on your tv. The market for that capability will be huge.
ESPN has talked some about this.
Zero chance that streaming game swaps will be anywhere near as simple & fast as cable or satellite anytime in the next 10 years (if not longer). It's a bandwidth problem. The swapped-to game would have to be in full stream prior to the switch and the TV would have to be able to buffer that extra bandwidth.
I don't think I'd go that far. I think switching won't be a big deal. Amazon Prime is part of the way there subscription wise by enabling you to add/watch subscriptions from other providers like HBO, Stars, AMC, etc.
You bring up a good point about buffering and switching time. Not a big deal for me though.
Is that honestly that big of a problem though? I know people like to flip between games BUT one of the benefits of streaming is that its on ALL devices. You can have a game on your TV, phone etc. I have google TV and often have one running on my tablet and carry it around the house or sit next to me while watching another game on tv. Also changing games with google tv is really easy and quick, there is almost no buffering maybe 1 second. Switching apps is a is a bit more annoying but still not bad either.
I think the current distribution of the Pac-12 Networks has lowered our tolerance a ton. I have had a lot of trouble finding it when I travel. Finally settled on Sling. I'd like to avoid that in the future.
Ditto. Sling didn’t even capture all the games, even with the sports bundles. If I recall correctly, Fox Sports wasn’t on there. Just FS1 or something from their network.
I hear what you're saying... take a look at what Apple is doing with the MLS games. They're doing some cool things.
During march madness google tv had up to 4 games at a time (depending on how many were playing at the time) on at the same time. You could watch all 4 at once on the same screen and choose which you listened to instantly with the remote. it was great and worked flawlessly for me.
YouTube TV had the same multi-games on one screen option and it was fantastic.
I'm with you JC. Personally, I'm OK with a little delay when switching between games. I've used the streaming version of Sunday Ticket for years and I've learned to live with it
This absolutely YES. The biggest thing I hear is that people cant find or get the games because they are on pac12 an even in the NW no one has access unless they either buy sling or have comcast (F that). I would LOVE to just be able to know that the game is on at x time on amazon and just be done with it. yes please! Apple is just trading one walled garden for another walled garden we do NOT need to get into.
MLS on AppleTV has been a huge hit with the quality. If that is part of the Pac-12 Networks plan... I think fans will be pleased.
Yeah but then we go back to reach and distribution, reach and eyes on games. How many people have apple plus? its not many more than have access to p12 network now. I have no doubt that its better or a good product, but its more about not forcing people to purchase another product just to get access to p12 content. Most people already have amazon.
I think Amazon/Apple are in an entirely different league from P12 networks. Branding, access, ease of use, etc are night and day different. Distribution will look entirely different and exposure far better. Not even a real comparison IMO
It's still paying extra $$ for a couple games a week if that
https://techcrunch.com/2023/03/29/apple-spotted-developing-a-multiview-feature-for-watching-sports-on-apple-tv/