I was not talking about the schools going to the Big 10 or ACC
But the former Pac 12 schools in the Big 12 get some say, of some kind.....you are right maybe they can't vote yet, maybe they can, but is their opinion supportive of joining them, or would they rather not?
I was not talking about the schools going to the Big 10 or ACC
But the former Pac 12 schools in the Big 12 get some say, of some kind.....you are right maybe they can't vote yet, maybe they can, but is their opinion supportive of joining them, or would they rather not?
Again I as I said I think 3 of 4 would most likely support it and CU may not since it was going back ot the Big12. I just posted above that I also think legal action by the PAC2 against the Big 12, Fox, and ESPN might actually force their hand anyways. Just a theory which I hope the 2 schools test out in court.
I don't think the Pac 2 has any real case against any of those parties.
The fault lies with the pac 12 Presidents. Someone amongst Oregon, Washington or Stanford has this professor with the bogus $50M valuation that the conference stuck with as the ship went down. I'd like to know who this was and would love for that clown to be ridiculed
Why are you focused on that $50M theory from some professor when the Big12 actually did offer $30M to all Pac12 teams based on Fox/ESPN media deal and got CU to jump early. Then they dangled it to get the rest of the 4 corners and dropped the offer to the remaining 4 schools left once the writing was on the wall. That seems real and discovery there might be more instructive to solving keeping the WSU/OSU in a Power conference.
I'm not a lawyer though I have a kid who is so I don't know if there is no case, but it sure seems like it was wrong.
The reality is UW & UO are getting $35M now and full shares (which some are saying is $70M+) when the next Big10 negotiation is coming up so maybe they had a right to believe that. Now if it was a Stanford prof, my guess is they should fire him/her given what they ended up with given their ACC deal.
My thought is USC and the LA/SCal market leaving broke the conference not some bogus theory. As for the 10 remaining schools if the Big12 didn't make an active effort to poach them with Fox & ESPN's help they'd still be together because there would be no where to go. Colorado had a place to go. So when the going got tough, they left to go to the Big 12 with open arms. which started the dominoes for the break up of the conference.
That had nothing to do with some bogus valuation theory. That is the facts , but you may know a truth that the rest of us don't understand. My only hope is there is a good solution for OSU and WSU.
I don't know what you are talking about. I dont think there is anything really actionable against the networks or Big 12. Schools are free to do what they want.
The $50M bogus valuation is what set all this in motion.
Wow! Hold on to your belief that even if they had no place to go ie the Big12 was fine with their Conference makeup so wouldn't make a guaranteed offer to any PAC12 team to get a $30M media deal the conference would have still blown up because somebody simply made a bogus $50M valuation. One of the subscribed posters who was an antitrust lawyer also pointed out in a post below that CU, the first of the 10 remaining to jump, got a $2.5M bonus from the Big12. You and JJ (the poster) are correct that it's just capitalism the PAC2 might not win a legal case, but they certainly are winning the court of public opinion that they were wronged by the other 10 PAC schools leaving, Fox/ESPN, and 3 of the other Power Conferences (other than the SEC) who took those 10 school and have left them out. I think spending time wining about a "bogus $50M valuation" (your words) is not as productive for the PAC2 than dealing with what really did happen and trying to do something about it. I hope they come up with an answer and using the courts is a good idea .
I was not talking about the schools going to the Big 10 or ACC
But the former Pac 12 schools in the Big 12 get some say, of some kind.....you are right maybe they can't vote yet, maybe they can, but is their opinion supportive of joining them, or would they rather not?
Again I as I said I think 3 of 4 would most likely support it and CU may not since it was going back ot the Big12. I just posted above that I also think legal action by the PAC2 against the Big 12, Fox, and ESPN might actually force their hand anyways. Just a theory which I hope the 2 schools test out in court.
I don't think the Pac 2 has any real case against any of those parties.
The fault lies with the pac 12 Presidents. Someone amongst Oregon, Washington or Stanford has this professor with the bogus $50M valuation that the conference stuck with as the ship went down. I'd like to know who this was and would love for that clown to be ridiculed
Why are you focused on that $50M theory from some professor when the Big12 actually did offer $30M to all Pac12 teams based on Fox/ESPN media deal and got CU to jump early. Then they dangled it to get the rest of the 4 corners and dropped the offer to the remaining 4 schools left once the writing was on the wall. That seems real and discovery there might be more instructive to solving keeping the WSU/OSU in a Power conference.
I'm not a lawyer though I have a kid who is so I don't know if there is no case, but it sure seems like it was wrong.
The reality is UW & UO are getting $35M now and full shares (which some are saying is $70M+) when the next Big10 negotiation is coming up so maybe they had a right to believe that. Now if it was a Stanford prof, my guess is they should fire him/her given what they ended up with given their ACC deal.
The bogus $50M valuation is what broke up the conference.
My thought is USC and the LA/SCal market leaving broke the conference not some bogus theory. As for the 10 remaining schools if the Big12 didn't make an active effort to poach them with Fox & ESPN's help they'd still be together because there would be no where to go. Colorado had a place to go. So when the going got tough, they left to go to the Big 12 with open arms. which started the dominoes for the break up of the conference.
That had nothing to do with some bogus valuation theory. That is the facts , but you may know a truth that the rest of us don't understand. My only hope is there is a good solution for OSU and WSU.
I don't know what you are talking about. I dont think there is anything really actionable against the networks or Big 12. Schools are free to do what they want.
The $50M bogus valuation is what set all this in motion.
Wow! Hold on to your belief that even if they had no place to go ie the Big12 was fine with their Conference makeup so wouldn't make a guaranteed offer to any PAC12 team to get a $30M media deal the conference would have still blown up because somebody simply made a bogus $50M valuation. One of the subscribed posters who was an antitrust lawyer also pointed out in a post below that CU, the first of the 10 remaining to jump, got a $2.5M bonus from the Big12. You and JJ (the poster) are correct that it's just capitalism the PAC2 might not win a legal case, but they certainly are winning the court of public opinion that they were wronged by the other 10 PAC schools leaving, Fox/ESPN, and 3 of the other Power Conferences (other than the SEC) who took those 10 school and have left them out. I think spending time wining about a "bogus $50M valuation" (your words) is not as productive for the PAC2 than dealing with what really did happen and trying to do something about it. I hope they come up with an answer and using the courts is a good idea .