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UH60Driver's avatar

LOL... I investigate aviation accidents for a living, literally my job to look at root causes and ask what were contributing, non contributing, contributing to the severity, and other factors.

If I were to map out the downfall of the Pac12, Oregon and UW 100% fall into the contributing category.

No false dumping or any other silly nuances you want to use when the information is available that on the morning of Aug 4th every other school was sitting on zoom waiting to begrudgingly approve a grant of rights for the sake of keeping the conference going, and UW and Oregon don't show up on time and there's rumors on the internet that they're going to the Big 10.

I'm sorry that facts bother you. Embrace that Oregon and UW are literally villains in this case, or just keeping making your excuses for everyone to see right through them.

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Dale Scott's avatar

Again, conveniently ignoring virtually everything while cherry picking what you want the narrative to be.

You're absolutely correct about the morning of August 4th, as if that morning was the only pretext to the conference' demise. Pretty narrow look at a situation that was evolving for years, don't you think?

I said there were many who were implicit in this mess and yes, Oregon and Washington contributed. To say they and they alone are the only reason the conference isn't whole is disingenuous.

I don't have a problem having Oregon and Washington being villains. I do have a problem you don't or won't recognize the many other villains who contributed to this debacle, including the former OSU president.

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BackDoor's avatar

Yep, hours before the approval UW, Arizona, and UO get offers of a much better deal relative to visibility for their programs and money to support them. They did what they did for the interests of their schools....just as USC, UCLA and Colorado had done.

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UH60Driver's avatar

Oregon and UW literally don't get a full share until 2029 of big10 money. They screwed everyone to keep the roughly the same net revenue until that point. Colorado's revenue pans out to be about the same as well.....

Also, not true regarding Arizona. Bobby Robbins was ready to stay put in the Pac12 despite their Big12 overture if UW and Oregon hadn't left. You can look up Brett McMurphy's tweet at 6:45am on August 4th regarding that.

Or.... you can just keep making these blind excuses rather than accepting that UW and Oregon are villains in the demise of the Pac12.

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Blake Taylor's avatar

Hey Michael. What are you hoping to achieve with your posts? Change people’s minds? Honest question.

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RhinoDawg's avatar

Soooo, Twitter is ur support?

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BackDoor's avatar

Read the Arizona newspapers. Arizona went into the meeting with a Big12 deal. They told the Big12 commissioner we want to wait to see what Commissioner K brings. If it isn't as good, we'll join the Big12. K didn't bring it. Cats immediately called Yormark. It wasn't UW/UO cold feet. It was UA making their own decision.

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