Really happy for OSU landing DJ in portal ! Pac is for sure a QB of riches in 2023. What could Amazon do promoting all these head 2 head matchups?
The firing of Nick Rolovich at WSU was a travesty and Cougars are now paying for this Covid govt. overreach. I hope Nick is successful suing the pants off the University / Inslee / State of Washington and wins BIG
Firing Rolovich was only rational action that could be taken. Defiance of a direct order was sufficient but in the face of a 100 Year pandemic that was killing hundreds of thousands, anything less would be sheer negligence
How about this? It almost killed me. I was in the ICU for 13 days. Killed my daughter’s co-worker in 10 days. He was 26. Geez people like you befuddle me
Hi Ed, sorry for your experience and glad you pulled through because I regularly enjoy your comments!
I too know close friends and family who suffered from this virus, as do many of us here in this online community
My comment not at all directed at anyone other than government forcing a health decision on an individual to enable employment, and now CFB Coug’s suffering in part from ‘long Covid’ as a consequence. That, IMHO is wrong. It’s also bad for the PAC to have weak teams
It was clear (to many) by Oct 2021 that vaccine was effective for lessening impact of virus if you got it, but not for preventing its spread. With that knowledge, it was IMO, arbitrary to fire Rolovich for refusing the vaccine
Soon enough the Superior court of Whitman County will have its say. It will be interesting to see if Washington case follows what just occurred in New York (where state sanitation workers fired for refusing jab have been reinstated in job w/ back pay). Each jurisdiction and state case law is different so east coast example may not apply
What is nuts to me is that Inslee directive requiring vax for WA State employment is still in effect today. Even Kate Brown/Oregon rescinded that same requirement for govt workers back on Apr 1 ‘22
I understand your point. I lived in Washington for 5 years and it was
incredible how the state government would wield it’s power with no regard for the citizen’s input.
I am a coach. I saw what the pandemic did to my team and myself.Try spending 14 days in ICU. I was in isolated from everyone I knew and loved. There was a day when they called my wife and kids and said I was looking like I was not going to make it. I talked to the nurses and the doctors. I have a 25 year history of broadcasting and interviewing people. They told me their personal stories of their own relatives denying the seriousness of the disease . Then dying. This was all before the vaccine. The doctors and nurses gave up trying to convince people like Rolovich and put their head down and worked to save lives. They did not give up. There was no vaccine then and these people risked their lives to save mine They lost their own mothers and fathers and sisters and brothers. And son’s and daughters
Anyone with any kind of cognition should have looked at the deaths and said I will get the vaccine for the good of the team and the safety of me and my family Rolovich was a COVID denier and deserved to be fired. He took the selfish and easy way out and destroyed his own future.
I’ve not had Covid that I know of, but my daughter and wife have. I got jabbed 2x. I did lose 2 extended family members to Covid, both were elderly. I don’t doubt the seriousness of the virus, at all. I just have a strong belief in personal choice, and not allowing the State to control one’s livelihood for not conforming to what was a vaccine that wasn’t tested to same level as all other vaccines we grew up with. To the vast majority, the vaccine has been a huge plus. To a minority however it has not. I know several friends (in their early 40’s) who took vax and suffered myocarditis, for example. They wish they never took the vaccine. The pharmaceutical companies supply vaccines are also immune from lawsuit if something goes awry w/ your health from taking vax
For me (and you) and many others that didn’t matter, we took it anyway
Rolovich i think is separate from our own experiences. Him not taking vax isn’t telling you you or anyone else you/they should not, nor does his vax refusal discount the suffering of others who contracted Covid. It’s just a personal choice, and I hope the courts respect it and compensate him accordingly
Ed, you say you understand Matt's point, but it sounds like you don't. You are talking virus, he is about personal choice. The jab has never kept anyone from getting the virus or spreading it, so you are not doing it "for the good of the team". You are taking it to hopefully keep you from getting very sick or dying (although you still can). So, since you are doing it for yourself, it should be a personal choice in a free society.
wrong...firing over the refusal to be vaccinated, when it's now proven the vaccinations actually make a person more susceptible to contract COVID and it's variants is governmental over-reach and negligence by not doing their due diligence. I hope Rolovich is able to sue Inslee and the state for many many millions.
Actually it's the opposite of "proven" that vaccinations make a person more susceptible to COVID. Just FYI, Gateway Pundit, the website who made that debunked claim, is not a credible source for science information. Second, Rolovich has no case. He violated the terms of his employment agreement. Then, after he was fired, made a bad faith claim that his Catholic beliefs prevented him from getting the vaccine. The Catholic church has no such prohibition.
"Not a credible source for science information"? AKA not approved by Fauci because it goes against the narrative. Never in American history has one side of a story been suppressed like we have experienced with the vaccines. Those with opposing views have had their careers destroyed. That should tell anyone with an open intelligent mind that there is a massive cover up. There are always two sides of a story, ALWAYS.
I could be wrong in this, but I think in the history of our nation it has only ever been the military that has required an injection (never tested on humans before mass release) into your body in exchange for employment
I’m a 1st Gulf War veteran and myself and other vets took untested injections at that time (to protect against Anthrax). We later learned these injections were never FDA approved, and they were finally stopped in 2001
Thankfully I suffer no ill effects from those shots. But I know fellow vets who continue to suffer long term negative effects (Gulf War Illness) that we believe are attributed to jabs ‘for our own good’ needed to fulfill that past govt. ‘employment contract’
Rolovich was a collegiate coach in good physical shape. He should not have had to give any reason for refusing the jab other than citing what he/you and I enjoy under the Bill of Rights. He was the highest paid employee of State of Washington at the time, and I believe he was made an example of
Is the “employment agreement” a public record? Is there a specific clause in said “agreement” where Rolovich agreed to take any vaccines in the event of a pandemic? If there is such a clause, then I agree he has no case. If there is no such clause, what “terms” of employment did he violate? Please be specific.
That's your opinion, not a fact. I did not refer to the "gateway pundit" You did! I got my information from several biologists and virologists. But you keep assuming you know everything. Admittedly Rolovich as a state employee is in a tight spot. But "if" he can prove the governor acted negligently and more importantly without proper information and facts...He may have a great case. YOU don't know whether or not he does, and neither do I. But YOU keep assuming, you know what ass-umptions do...right?
I'm waiting to see what the media deal looks like, if revenues will continue to be dispersed equally, the length of the agreement, how many teams, if any, carve out an early opt out, how much game coverage will be linear vs streaming and how many Pac games will be played when folks east of the Rockies are awake.
CFB is a big business dominated by Benji. The Pac-12 media deal best trump the B12 deal.
I totally agree with your positive take on the conference's current trajectory. The conference was better and deeper than was the B1G this season. Having 50% of the Pac-12 conference ranked by the PO CT speaks for itself.
I think all of us were hopeful. The name was in the wind. But it is hard for longtime Beavs fans to think this much good stuff can happen to our program
I am cautiously optimistic. As a Beaver how can I be otherwise? I read where OSU offered Uiagalelie when he was in 8th grade. Interesting how things might pan out.
Pretty easy to get excited about this news. Could be the start of something special for OSU. Jonathan Smith’s blueprint for success may have been accelerated, schedule-wise, thanks to the portal.
I cannot understand for the life of me why anyone, even a happy coach would be smoking inside a restaurant and put it on social media. I like Lanning and like his demeanor, but this was a real “oops”.
Or actually anywhere outside of the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and the UK. I lived in Europe and the Middle East for significant periods of my life and they're still stuck in the 1950s as far as smoking is concerned.
I hope DJ works out for the Beavers. His departure from Clemson was probably the best thing for all parties concerned. He needed to go to a new environment because he was going nowhere in Clemson. Personally, I'm kind of leery of situations like this because Utah has had some recent negative experience with highly touted transfers (Jake Bentley and Charlie Brewer).
JC, re your talk with Dillingham. Of course he will deny a distraction. Maybe a couple of follow up questions on play call reasoning would be enlightening!
Churn, flurry, squall, hard to find a word to describe the state of college football at the moment. Merry Christmas, John, to you and your beautiful family. And to all the other knuckleheads, as Wilbon affectionately calls us, who delight in your updates, insight and inside skinny regularly. Charlie
Really happy for OSU landing DJ in portal ! Pac is for sure a QB of riches in 2023. What could Amazon do promoting all these head 2 head matchups?
The firing of Nick Rolovich at WSU was a travesty and Cougars are now paying for this Covid govt. overreach. I hope Nick is successful suing the pants off the University / Inslee / State of Washington and wins BIG
Firing Rolovich was only rational action that could be taken. Defiance of a direct order was sufficient but in the face of a 100 Year pandemic that was killing hundreds of thousands, anything less would be sheer negligence
We’ll see how “rational” the decision was when the actual science is examined in a court of law.
How about this? It almost killed me. I was in the ICU for 13 days. Killed my daughter’s co-worker in 10 days. He was 26. Geez people like you befuddle me
Hi Ed, sorry for your experience and glad you pulled through because I regularly enjoy your comments!
I too know close friends and family who suffered from this virus, as do many of us here in this online community
My comment not at all directed at anyone other than government forcing a health decision on an individual to enable employment, and now CFB Coug’s suffering in part from ‘long Covid’ as a consequence. That, IMHO is wrong. It’s also bad for the PAC to have weak teams
It was clear (to many) by Oct 2021 that vaccine was effective for lessening impact of virus if you got it, but not for preventing its spread. With that knowledge, it was IMO, arbitrary to fire Rolovich for refusing the vaccine
Soon enough the Superior court of Whitman County will have its say. It will be interesting to see if Washington case follows what just occurred in New York (where state sanitation workers fired for refusing jab have been reinstated in job w/ back pay). Each jurisdiction and state case law is different so east coast example may not apply
What is nuts to me is that Inslee directive requiring vax for WA State employment is still in effect today. Even Kate Brown/Oregon rescinded that same requirement for govt workers back on Apr 1 ‘22
Did you get sick? Did you suffer? Did someone close to you die? Have you spent hours watching people coming in and corpses going out?
I understand your point. I lived in Washington for 5 years and it was
incredible how the state government would wield it’s power with no regard for the citizen’s input.
I am a coach. I saw what the pandemic did to my team and myself.Try spending 14 days in ICU. I was in isolated from everyone I knew and loved. There was a day when they called my wife and kids and said I was looking like I was not going to make it. I talked to the nurses and the doctors. I have a 25 year history of broadcasting and interviewing people. They told me their personal stories of their own relatives denying the seriousness of the disease . Then dying. This was all before the vaccine. The doctors and nurses gave up trying to convince people like Rolovich and put their head down and worked to save lives. They did not give up. There was no vaccine then and these people risked their lives to save mine They lost their own mothers and fathers and sisters and brothers. And son’s and daughters
Anyone with any kind of cognition should have looked at the deaths and said I will get the vaccine for the good of the team and the safety of me and my family Rolovich was a COVID denier and deserved to be fired. He took the selfish and easy way out and destroyed his own future.
Merry Christmas Ed!
I’ve not had Covid that I know of, but my daughter and wife have. I got jabbed 2x. I did lose 2 extended family members to Covid, both were elderly. I don’t doubt the seriousness of the virus, at all. I just have a strong belief in personal choice, and not allowing the State to control one’s livelihood for not conforming to what was a vaccine that wasn’t tested to same level as all other vaccines we grew up with. To the vast majority, the vaccine has been a huge plus. To a minority however it has not. I know several friends (in their early 40’s) who took vax and suffered myocarditis, for example. They wish they never took the vaccine. The pharmaceutical companies supply vaccines are also immune from lawsuit if something goes awry w/ your health from taking vax
For me (and you) and many others that didn’t matter, we took it anyway
Rolovich i think is separate from our own experiences. Him not taking vax isn’t telling you you or anyone else you/they should not, nor does his vax refusal discount the suffering of others who contracted Covid. It’s just a personal choice, and I hope the courts respect it and compensate him accordingly
Employment is a binding agreement between two people. Breach that deal you are gone. That is science: A - B = C.
Have you had it? Maybe you should try it out and see how
rational this virus is. Geez.
Ed, you say you understand Matt's point, but it sounds like you don't. You are talking virus, he is about personal choice. The jab has never kept anyone from getting the virus or spreading it, so you are not doing it "for the good of the team". You are taking it to hopefully keep you from getting very sick or dying (although you still can). So, since you are doing it for yourself, it should be a personal choice in a free society.
wrong...firing over the refusal to be vaccinated, when it's now proven the vaccinations actually make a person more susceptible to contract COVID and it's variants is governmental over-reach and negligence by not doing their due diligence. I hope Rolovich is able to sue Inslee and the state for many many millions.
Actually it's the opposite of "proven" that vaccinations make a person more susceptible to COVID. Just FYI, Gateway Pundit, the website who made that debunked claim, is not a credible source for science information. Second, Rolovich has no case. He violated the terms of his employment agreement. Then, after he was fired, made a bad faith claim that his Catholic beliefs prevented him from getting the vaccine. The Catholic church has no such prohibition.
"Not a credible source for science information"? AKA not approved by Fauci because it goes against the narrative. Never in American history has one side of a story been suppressed like we have experienced with the vaccines. Those with opposing views have had their careers destroyed. That should tell anyone with an open intelligent mind that there is a massive cover up. There are always two sides of a story, ALWAYS.
I could be wrong in this, but I think in the history of our nation it has only ever been the military that has required an injection (never tested on humans before mass release) into your body in exchange for employment
I’m a 1st Gulf War veteran and myself and other vets took untested injections at that time (to protect against Anthrax). We later learned these injections were never FDA approved, and they were finally stopped in 2001
Thankfully I suffer no ill effects from those shots. But I know fellow vets who continue to suffer long term negative effects (Gulf War Illness) that we believe are attributed to jabs ‘for our own good’ needed to fulfill that past govt. ‘employment contract’
Rolovich was a collegiate coach in good physical shape. He should not have had to give any reason for refusing the jab other than citing what he/you and I enjoy under the Bill of Rights. He was the highest paid employee of State of Washington at the time, and I believe he was made an example of
Is the “employment agreement” a public record? Is there a specific clause in said “agreement” where Rolovich agreed to take any vaccines in the event of a pandemic? If there is such a clause, then I agree he has no case. If there is no such clause, what “terms” of employment did he violate? Please be specific.
That's your opinion, not a fact. I did not refer to the "gateway pundit" You did! I got my information from several biologists and virologists. But you keep assuming you know everything. Admittedly Rolovich as a state employee is in a tight spot. But "if" he can prove the governor acted negligently and more importantly without proper information and facts...He may have a great case. YOU don't know whether or not he does, and neither do I. But YOU keep assuming, you know what ass-umptions do...right?
You cannot be serious. Rolovich failed to comply with his terms of employment. Try it at your job to see how it works.
"You cannot be serious"? John McEnroe, is that you?
Reports of the Pac12's demise are proving completely false. The Pac is soaring.
Happy Holidays and best wishes in 2023 to the BFT family and our Dear Leader, John freaking Canzano.
Merry Christmas
Kiwi. I hope that your optimism is realized.
I'm waiting to see what the media deal looks like, if revenues will continue to be dispersed equally, the length of the agreement, how many teams, if any, carve out an early opt out, how much game coverage will be linear vs streaming and how many Pac games will be played when folks east of the Rockies are awake.
CFB is a big business dominated by Benji. The Pac-12 media deal best trump the B12 deal.
I totally agree with your positive take on the conference's current trajectory. The conference was better and deeper than was the B1G this season. Having 50% of the Pac-12 conference ranked by the PO CT speaks for itself.
The PAC 12 is the most interesting conference in CFB.
And DJ to OSU would be the most interesting portal transfer.
I'm ready for next season.
How soon can it start?
Riveting stuff
2 Uiagaleiei's 40 miles apart in Oregon = SERENDIPITY!
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all.
Thank you John for this Great site.
Big get
Happy Holidays Jon! Why don't I see you on fishduck anymore?
I have been banished by King Charles. Thank you for asking.
You always had some of the best takes and an interesting perspective! Sad to hear
Thanks my friend but so it goes. It is after all his WEBsite.
Can't take credit for actually calling it, but I definitely believed Jonathan Smith and OSU made a lot of sense for DJU to rebuild his NFL prospects.
https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-pac-12-coaches-split-on-who/comment/10966512
I think all of us were hopeful. The name was in the wind. But it is hard for longtime Beavs fans to think this much good stuff can happen to our program
Thanks John!
Please keep up the "human interest" aspect of your stuff. Loved seeing the relationship between DJ and Father.
Admitting past mistakes - Love that kind of
Parenting
Merry Christmas and thank you
I am cautiously optimistic. As a Beaver how can I be otherwise? I read where OSU offered Uiagalelie when he was in 8th grade. Interesting how things might pan out.
Pretty easy to get excited about this news. Could be the start of something special for OSU. Jonathan Smith’s blueprint for success may have been accelerated, schedule-wise, thanks to the portal.
I cannot understand for the life of me why anyone, even a happy coach would be smoking inside a restaurant and put it on social media. I like Lanning and like his demeanor, but this was a real “oops”.
Thought it invited criticism… but I think he was celebrating
🤣🤣 a real oops eh?? Nothing wrong with smoking a cigar after he KILLED it in recruiting.
Indoors, in a restaurant? A NoNo!
OMG somebody better call the cops!!!
Don't go to Europe....
Or Asia.
Or actually anywhere outside of the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and the UK. I lived in Europe and the Middle East for significant periods of my life and they're still stuck in the 1950s as far as smoking is concerned.
Yawn!
He sent the entire week blowing smoke up recruits...
Recruits <4
Lanning<2
ifs and buts for the Ducks ....I am sure they will have a Merry xmas
Seems like a move a SEC coach might do.
Good. I hope he continues to recruit like the majority of coaches in the SEC.
I hope DJ works out for the Beavers. His departure from Clemson was probably the best thing for all parties concerned. He needed to go to a new environment because he was going nowhere in Clemson. Personally, I'm kind of leery of situations like this because Utah has had some recent negative experience with highly touted transfers (Jake Bentley and Charlie Brewer).
Agree… think there is big upside for OSU
Happy Christmas, Everyone!
I agree with jon joseph and his thank you for the great site. Merry Christmas to you and yours!
Merry Christmas
JC, re your talk with Dillingham. Of course he will deny a distraction. Maybe a couple of follow up questions on play call reasoning would be enlightening!
Will definitely ask
My brother is a Beav. He's 71 and deserves to see a Rose Bowl. If the Ducks falter, I'm all in with Oregon State.
Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Merry Christmas
Churn, flurry, squall, hard to find a word to describe the state of college football at the moment. Merry Christmas, John, to you and your beautiful family. And to all the other knuckleheads, as Wilbon affectionately calls us, who delight in your updates, insight and inside skinny regularly. Charlie
Thank you … Merry Christmas