What a shame fans of the chickenshit schools who destroyed a 100 year-old conference for greed won’t be able to watch their money-grubbing teams play. Karma.
What a shame fans of the chickenshit schools who destroyed a 100 year-old conference for greed won’t be able to watch their money-grubbing teams play. Karma.
If you think that Apple deal that George K put together was going to keep the Pac 12 relevant, then you are only fooling yourself. It sucks y'all got left behind, but by no means should everyone else have gone down with the sinking ship.
NBA just signed a deal with Amazon Prime with a lot of Games including playoff games like the conference finals every other year. Blazers make the Western Conference finals? It's possible the only way you'll be able to watch is with a Prime subscription if Amazon gets it that year. NFL, MLB and MLS have Apple TV/Amazon only games. Granted those all also have some of their games on traditional TV.
That last sentence is key. The NBA is also the best basketball league in the World, they can do that.
A typical CFB Saturday window has games on ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, FS1, and on down the line. Why would anybody outside the Pac12 footprint pay an extra what I'm guessing would be in the area of $100 a year when they already have that smorgasbord of College Football available with a basic cable subscription?
Seriously you need a reality pill, all Phils money is not going to keep Oregon relevant, you need top TV exposure and UW did not even have Phil. Three schools had already left, two more the Arizona schools were almost certainly going to leave, the conference was dead with no TV deal, OSU and WSU would have done the exact same thing if they could.
LMAO, are you familiar with the phrase "out of sight, out of mind"? Because if you were, you'd know that the entire conference would have become irrelevant when every other conference is available on OTA or basic cable. I am fully aware of the future of streaming, however, we're still in the present and that deal in 2023 would have killed the conference. Its the easiest tool other schools can use against you in recruiting and forget ever getting a marquee opponent to come play a game that their fans would have to pay extra money to watch.
OSU would have been doomed to irrelevancy in either scenario, so again, why should every other school in the conference stay aboard a sinking ship when they have a life raft available to them?
There was plenty of rumbling about teams leaving, it just got louder once it became clear that George K was feeding everyone BS about having a deal in the works. That doesn't answer the question of why Oregon should have remained aboard a sinking ship.
You don’t think the nine remaining teams, along with options like SDSU, Boise State et Al wouldn’t make an attractive package? Agree that K & especially his predecessor f’d this up royally, and what the departing schools got (except Cal & Stanford) was clarity, but I’ve never seen much remorse from the schools or fans over the destruction of an historic conference.
Now the ticket prices for games far outstrip the average fan’s ability to pay, much like the other “professional “ sports. The duckies & puppies will likely make the cut into the 48 or 60 NFL minor league franchises. Honestly hope my alma mater continues to focus on being the best education university possible, not a school defined by the success or failure of its football team.
According to the Tucson paper, Arizona also had a deal with the Big12's Yormark from the day before. They waited to pull the trigger on that to within minutes after of UW and UO's announcement. They were waiting to see if Commissioner K could deliver something that would exceed Yormark. He didn't.
Tone down the bitterness, I feel for OSU and WSU and want the best for them but after USC, UCLA and Colorado all jumped ship and it appeared Arizona/ASU was as well, both schools would have done the same if they had the opportunity not to mention there was no viable TV deal for the conference.
the karma is that OSU and WSU are cry babies. money talks and ---walks. the rich get richer and the beavers and cougars are relagated to red headed step child status where they belong. quit sobbing and try and win some football games you losers. The mighty PAC2 is a joke; winner of cougs and beavers still does not qualify for the toilet bowl! GO DUCKS
What a shame fans of the chickenshit schools who destroyed a 100 year-old conference for greed won’t be able to watch their money-grubbing teams play. Karma.
There are tons of other providers that don’t black out the games. Nice try though.
If by greed you mean survival, then you are correct.
No he means greed. And he is correct.
If you think that Apple deal that George K put together was going to keep the Pac 12 relevant, then you are only fooling yourself. It sucks y'all got left behind, but by no means should everyone else have gone down with the sinking ship.
NBA just signed a deal with Amazon Prime with a lot of Games including playoff games like the conference finals every other year. Blazers make the Western Conference finals? It's possible the only way you'll be able to watch is with a Prime subscription if Amazon gets it that year. NFL, MLB and MLS have Apple TV/Amazon only games. Granted those all also have some of their games on traditional TV.
That last sentence is key. The NBA is also the best basketball league in the World, they can do that.
A typical CFB Saturday window has games on ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, FS1, and on down the line. Why would anybody outside the Pac12 footprint pay an extra what I'm guessing would be in the area of $100 a year when they already have that smorgasbord of College Football available with a basic cable subscription?
Seriously how were they going to survive with no TV contract and three schools already gone and two more likely gone?
Survival? You couldn’t “survive” with Uncle Phil’s money & Apple? Can’t visualize the future of streaming? Clearly “loyalty” is not taught at UofOCC.
Seriously you need a reality pill, all Phils money is not going to keep Oregon relevant, you need top TV exposure and UW did not even have Phil. Three schools had already left, two more the Arizona schools were almost certainly going to leave, the conference was dead with no TV deal, OSU and WSU would have done the exact same thing if they could.
OSU President Murthy has stated otherwise. Please stop with these false assumptions as poor arguments.
LMAO, are you familiar with the phrase "out of sight, out of mind"? Because if you were, you'd know that the entire conference would have become irrelevant when every other conference is available on OTA or basic cable. I am fully aware of the future of streaming, however, we're still in the present and that deal in 2023 would have killed the conference. Its the easiest tool other schools can use against you in recruiting and forget ever getting a marquee opponent to come play a game that their fans would have to pay extra money to watch.
OSU would have been doomed to irrelevancy in either scenario, so again, why should every other school in the conference stay aboard a sinking ship when they have a life raft available to them?
Maybe because they pledged to “stick together” & then negotiated behind everyone’s back & left without warning?
There was plenty of rumbling about teams leaving, it just got louder once it became clear that George K was feeding everyone BS about having a deal in the works. That doesn't answer the question of why Oregon should have remained aboard a sinking ship.
You don’t think the nine remaining teams, along with options like SDSU, Boise State et Al wouldn’t make an attractive package? Agree that K & especially his predecessor f’d this up royally, and what the departing schools got (except Cal & Stanford) was clarity, but I’ve never seen much remorse from the schools or fans over the destruction of an historic conference.
Now the ticket prices for games far outstrip the average fan’s ability to pay, much like the other “professional “ sports. The duckies & puppies will likely make the cut into the 48 or 60 NFL minor league franchises. Honestly hope my alma mater continues to focus on being the best education university possible, not a school defined by the success or failure of its football team.
I think they would, but the folks who cut the checks clearly did not or they would have made a better offer.
Agree. In hindsight with the success the PAC 12 had in football last year we negotiated a year too early!
After Colorado left, before UO and UW, the PAC-12 was doomed
According to the Tucson paper, Arizona also had a deal with the Big12's Yormark from the day before. They waited to pull the trigger on that to within minutes after of UW and UO's announcement. They were waiting to see if Commissioner K could deliver something that would exceed Yormark. He didn't.
Tone down the bitterness, I feel for OSU and WSU and want the best for them but after USC, UCLA and Colorado all jumped ship and it appeared Arizona/ASU was as well, both schools would have done the same if they had the opportunity not to mention there was no viable TV deal for the conference.
the karma is that OSU and WSU are cry babies. money talks and ---walks. the rich get richer and the beavers and cougars are relagated to red headed step child status where they belong. quit sobbing and try and win some football games you losers. The mighty PAC2 is a joke; winner of cougs and beavers still does not qualify for the toilet bowl! GO DUCKS
I’m sure your team won’t head to a league that offers them money and conference security.
Not after the $200 million you left us , not to mention the $65 million you’re paying us lol.