JC, for us UW fans in Oregon (97008), under current Comcast ‘rules’ - will UW games on BTN be blacked out here in Oregon? Same question for Duck fans living in Seattle. Will those fans be able to view Duck football games on BTN?
Because their actions ensured the Pac would collapse. The 10 teams that remained after the LA schools left were offered $30 million EACH by ESPN during their exclusive negotiating period. That wasn't enough. And then, before you know it, Ana Marie Cauce at UW orchestrated an agreement for UW and UO to leave the Pac-12, right as the remaining nine schools were about to sign the GOR and lock-in the Apple deal (which, admittedly, wasn't guaranteed as much money, but had plenty of potential). As a result, UW is only making about as much money in the B1G as they would've made if the schools had agreed to ESPN's offer, while incurring far greater travel costs (physical and financial).
They screwed over OSU & WSU, and have nothing to show for it.
Who cares about the baby beavs and crying cougars? I prefer the BIG Boys like Big 10, SEC, ACC, and Big 12. Oregon, Washington, USC, and UCLA were smart to get off the Pac 2 Titanic 2. Money and crowd size rule sports on tv. ESPN rules all sports. The rich get richer and bawling baby beavers and cougs got left behind because they never will catch the BIG BOYS. boo hoo GO DUCKS; movin' on up to catch the SEC within a few years.
I’m always asked why I don’t root for the ducks. Besides the fact that I’m a proud Oregon State Beaver, I also speak to the immaturity and lack of class of many of their fans as another reason. Thanks Donnie for providing me another example to show what I mean when I say that.
There is free speech in America. Keep your comments to yourself and quit crying. I can write WHATEVER I WANT. If you do not like it do not read it. Beavers and Cougars are just plain losers and cry babies. Joan, keep you comments to yourself, or go see a counselor. Shut you stupid mouth and go vote for loser trump again. Real hard to fix stupid. DUMP TRUMP 2024
Donnie, there is absolutely free speech. However, there is no such thing as consequenceless speech. Our speech is free, but it still has consequences. You said something foolish and received the consequences through people trolling back at you for your trolling. Welcome to civil discourse. When you are less than civil, you are likely to find others will be also. AND, your comments about the "BIG" boys shows a significant lack of perspective on the current state of college athletics where the ACC is falling apart and the BIG12 has a lot of teams but little football strength compared to the BIG 10 and SEC. Lastly, until the Ducks have 300k people show up to tailgate and only 100,000 actually going into the game, they will still not be the equivalent of an SEC school. . .
Opinions are like ----; your comments show you have no clue about BIG BOY Football. The old pac-12 was going nowhere in football, and never would have been able to compete on the field, with the SEC, for at least five years. Now, the Oregon Ducks have a real shot at making the final four , and also winning the Big 10. There is a reason why OSU and WSU were left behind. It is called big money; the rich get richer and the smaller schools with small stadiums, and no real big fan base, are left in the dust. So sick of all you cry babies bashing Phil Knight. He and his wife have given money to all pac-12 schools, and not just for athletics. The total value of ESPN in billions of dollars is a huge number. Take the same total value of all pro teams in all sports, combined, and it is much lower than tv giant ESPN. Fact check me. I know football well, and I wager REAL MONEY on the NFL at Spirit Mountain and Chinook Winds casinos here in Oregon. I study the game. I do not usually bet the point spreads; I bet the odds. Am sure you do not understand real sports wagering. My maiden year in the NFL, 1984, I had my best year ever. I took the SF 49ers and Joe Montana every week for the first 13 weeks. At 2,200 dollars per game, I was up $26,000, and thought I could walk on water. I cleared $45,000 that year, winning $10,000 on the niners in the super bowl. I paid taxes on the winnings bets, and was able to write off expenses of going to Nevada weekly. I am picking the KC chiefs to go and win the super bowl again, just like three of the last four years.
The Acc is not falling apart at all; Clemson and others like Miami and Florida State are back. Your whole comment to my column gives you away as a wanna be football fan, who knows little about the SEC and the Big 10. Sure Autzen only holds, 60,000 or so. The Beavers play in a much smaller stadium; same for the WSU cougars. TV money rules all sports, and without it sports as we know them, would have much less of an impact. UCLA, USC, Washington, and Oregon were very wise to seize the opportunity to increase their revenue by leaving the Titanic2, also known as the PAC2. You are not wise to bash my take on the current state of college football . The live gate (your absurd comparison holds no real relevance ) has little to do with total athletic department money. TV money is where all the BIG BOY SCHOOLS like Alabama and Georgia fund most all their sports, both men and women. It also pays for professors, and people who work for the universities. Big money rules the world, and it also rules college athletics. Now, the players, through the NIL, are finally able to make money. You show a total lack of perspective Dan Euhus, by bashing my opinions. ESPN rules all sports on tv. If you want to win some of my money, take dony trump in the upcoming Presidential election. I am taking Ms. Harris, and I am a very liberal Christian democrat. I have never voted for a republican for President, and never will. All you trumpateers can eat ----- with a rusty spoon. Dump Trump 2024. If you do not like what I write, keep your opinion to yourself please. Money talks and ----walks. The all-new jv league of the PAC2 is going nowhere fast. I have supported my Oregon Ducks for just 61 years. I sat in the rain and watched them go 2-9 under Rich Brooks many years. I remember all the losses, better than I remember the huge wins. Mike Belotti won 70% of his games at Oregon. He brought in Chip Kelly. Now, we have a real coach in Dan Lanning, whose buyout of only $20 million, is one reason he will not leave Oregon anytime soon. He and his family love Eugene. He coached the defense at Georgia when they won a national championship. My dream of seeing my Ducks compete with anyone, anywhere, in football are here! The Ducks have been on college gameday as many times as Georgia, or Alabama. We will expand Autzen soon. Lanning could have gone to Alabama when Nick Sabin retired. So glad he chose to stay in Eugene. The best coaches in college are now at around 7 million per year, same as Lanning. People like Lincoln Riley (USC) Dabo Sweeney (Clemson) Chip Kelly (Ohio State) and many others, now make around 7 million anually. The journey of 1000 miles starts with one tiny step. All the schools that left the Pac-12 were smart to start somewhere, rather than go backwards like the PAC 2. To think I almost became a Beaver in 1963 still makes me shudder. I chose the Ducks, and have never looked back. My dad, at my first college football game, in Portland, Or. told me it best to pick either the Beavers or the Ducks. I am a proud native Oregonian, born in Portland, and I love my state and my country. The Oregon Ducks are a nationwide brand now, thanks to large donors and Nike. All the little babies at WSU and the Benton county baby beavers are crying so loud, I can still hear them here in Portland. Now that the college football playoffs has expanded to 12 teams, with some games played at the actual school, college football will be better than ever. You can lose one game, maybe two, and still become national champions. The BIG 10 and the SEC, may have more than one or two teams in the final 12. The top rated teams now can earn a first round bye, and play at home in their next game. College football is on the rise, both in fan support, and total revenue. GO DUCKS
See, you just can't help yourself but be a troll. Besides being an OSU alumni, I am also an alumni of a prestigious ACC school and I have lived in the land of the Big 12 and SEC for over 20 years. I probably have been tomore "BIG BOY" college football games in the last twenty years than you have even if you attended every Duck home game and traveled for every Bowl game (which I doubt). So, why don't you TRY to quit being a jerk and a troll and quit trying to insult people all the time. And with that. Good luck to you. Given all your comments about football (and somehow about Trump which seems completely irrelevant since no one else brought it up) I might suggest a good therapist also. But, I suspect your goal is to be impolite to people. So, I suspect this is just who you are as a person. . .
I am sorry for your Trump dillusions. I personally don't like the guy, but I'm also even keeled enough to not feel like I need to bring him up as an insult in arguments. It is sort of like having to "win" an argument by calling the other person a Nazi or Hitler.
Wow. There's a lot of delusion in your comment. Phil Knight has dumped a billion dollars into your football program, and how many Nattys do you have to show for it so far?
Phil has donated about $1b to the University, not just the athletic department. About $500m for athletics, the rest to a new Law School building; and new Business School building and a cancer institute at OHSU. He's also given north of $500m to Stanford, where he earned his MBA. Stop crying and start appreciating this man's generosity. And for what it's worth OSU has some very large donors too - just not quite in Knights league.
Nice try. Add up the Moshofsky, Hatfied Dowlin, Autzen expansion, MKA, MM8, scoreboard, Hayward Field and the new indoor practice facility. That's well over $1B. Now add in the $30M to $40M sports subsidy every year to balance the duck books, then add in the Division Street millions and finally, add up the Nike component. It's $2B in sports alone. Just looking for transparency and honesty.
Actually, the riches man in the world is an OSU alumni. The difference is, he is an engineer and not a sports show business man. So, his priorities don't go to athletics.
The CW is "available" but didn't exactly have stellar viewership for the ACC last season. Hope it is better for WSU/OSU. The CBSNet games are not available to every potential fan.
There's an element of a viewing thinking "What channel should I tune to in order to watch any random College Football game?". Over time, the CW wants to be in that list, but it obviously isn't there yet.
True. They shouldn't expect to draw very many casual viewers just searching for a random game at this point. The main goal was ensuring that anyone, anywhere, who *wants* to watch OSU/WSU games will be able to do so as easily as possible. And they accomplished that.
What a shame fans of the chickenshit schools who destroyed a 100 year-old conference for greed won’t be able to watch their money-grubbing teams play. Karma.
If you think that Apple deal that George K put together was going to keep the Pac 12 relevant, then you are only fooling yourself. It sucks y'all got left behind, but by no means should everyone else have gone down with the sinking ship.
NBA just signed a deal with Amazon Prime with a lot of Games including playoff games like the conference finals every other year. Blazers make the Western Conference finals? It's possible the only way you'll be able to watch is with a Prime subscription if Amazon gets it that year. NFL, MLB and MLS have Apple TV/Amazon only games. Granted those all also have some of their games on traditional TV.
That last sentence is key. The NBA is also the best basketball league in the World, they can do that.
A typical CFB Saturday window has games on ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, FS1, and on down the line. Why would anybody outside the Pac12 footprint pay an extra what I'm guessing would be in the area of $100 a year when they already have that smorgasbord of College Football available with a basic cable subscription?
Seriously you need a reality pill, all Phils money is not going to keep Oregon relevant, you need top TV exposure and UW did not even have Phil. Three schools had already left, two more the Arizona schools were almost certainly going to leave, the conference was dead with no TV deal, OSU and WSU would have done the exact same thing if they could.
LMAO, are you familiar with the phrase "out of sight, out of mind"? Because if you were, you'd know that the entire conference would have become irrelevant when every other conference is available on OTA or basic cable. I am fully aware of the future of streaming, however, we're still in the present and that deal in 2023 would have killed the conference. Its the easiest tool other schools can use against you in recruiting and forget ever getting a marquee opponent to come play a game that their fans would have to pay extra money to watch.
OSU would have been doomed to irrelevancy in either scenario, so again, why should every other school in the conference stay aboard a sinking ship when they have a life raft available to them?
There was plenty of rumbling about teams leaving, it just got louder once it became clear that George K was feeding everyone BS about having a deal in the works. That doesn't answer the question of why Oregon should have remained aboard a sinking ship.
You don’t think the nine remaining teams, along with options like SDSU, Boise State et Al wouldn’t make an attractive package? Agree that K & especially his predecessor f’d this up royally, and what the departing schools got (except Cal & Stanford) was clarity, but I’ve never seen much remorse from the schools or fans over the destruction of an historic conference.
Now the ticket prices for games far outstrip the average fan’s ability to pay, much like the other “professional “ sports. The duckies & puppies will likely make the cut into the 48 or 60 NFL minor league franchises. Honestly hope my alma mater continues to focus on being the best education university possible, not a school defined by the success or failure of its football team.
According to the Tucson paper, Arizona also had a deal with the Big12's Yormark from the day before. They waited to pull the trigger on that to within minutes after of UW and UO's announcement. They were waiting to see if Commissioner K could deliver something that would exceed Yormark. He didn't.
Tone down the bitterness, I feel for OSU and WSU and want the best for them but after USC, UCLA and Colorado all jumped ship and it appeared Arizona/ASU was as well, both schools would have done the same if they had the opportunity not to mention there was no viable TV deal for the conference.
the karma is that OSU and WSU are cry babies. money talks and ---walks. the rich get richer and the beavers and cougars are relagated to red headed step child status where they belong. quit sobbing and try and win some football games you losers. The mighty PAC2 is a joke; winner of cougs and beavers still does not qualify for the toilet bowl! GO DUCKS
Every Oregon game has been televised on some network since two games were not in 2007. Every game since 2008.
Each Big Ten member is required to have two games on Big Ten Network. A non-conference game, and a conference game. Though, some schools could end up with more than two, I suppose, instead of Fox, FS1. CBS, NBC, Peacock.
My issue is not Big Ten Network. My carrier doesn't have CBSNet so I won't be able to watch OSU/WSU at Mt. West venues home network.
2. Comcast’s stance doesn’t surprise me at all. They’re bleeding subscribers to streaming services; their revenue model depends on upselling premium content; they’re probably assuming rabid UO, UW, UCLA & USC fans will shell out the $10.
3. Fair warning to campus presidents: don’t believe everything you’re told by conference commissioners and other “insiders.” Once the romance is over and you’re married, reality sets in.
4. Enjoy the karma, Cougar and Beaver nations. You deserve it.
Re: #2 - As JC describes it, what Comcast is doing is far worse than just upselling. Once they get you into that $10/mo extra tier, they still aren't giving you the live games of your local team. I am guessing they bury certain language deep in the fine print of the service agreement that covers their ass, but not delivering the full service that they just sold you is a pretty dirty trick.
Makes me wonder if the BIG10 Network is as committed to airing so-called Olympic sports to the extent that the PAC12 Network did. (Seems to me Comcast in its fine print basically promised football coverage only?)
The conference offers a DTC streaming service called Big Ten + that fills in the gaps for non-revenue sporting events that Big Ten Network doesn't broadcast. But since every football game is aired live by either BTN or one of the conference's other TV partners, that won't help with the blackouts. You can watch archived football games on Big Ten +, but not sure how long after the game is played before it is available to stream. Also BTN will rebroadcast games it showed to fill air time during the overnight hours, and I'm not sure if Comcast's blackouts will apply to that as well.
Next day replays? How cool is that? Reminds me of the Coaches shows after Monday Night football and right before the weekend local news shows Sunday night back in the 60's and 70's. Jim Sweeney's were the best, rationalizing 63-16 losses on channel 6 in Spokane right after AFL (well, Raider) games Sunday afternoons, saying, "well, these boys played hard." Sometimes fans even came out of the stands at Joe Albi to help pitch in.
Yep, good Karma. Comcast sucks so this will hopefully force many to dump Comcast and subscribe to one of the many providers that don’t black out the games, no contracts, no extra fees, etc. Great Karma indeed!
I have to chuckle. I’m reminded of the phrase, “they’d f up a 1 car parade” welcome to the B1G!! Oh well, both OSU and WSU will be available for view, AND accessible.
We left Comcast two years ago, as did pretty much everyone I know. The rates were outrageous & the customer service department was nonexistent. Bring on the season & as always GO DUCKS 💚💛
Yep, good Karma. Comcast sucks so this will hopefully force many to dump Comcast and subscribe to one of the many providers that don’t black out the games, no contracts, no extra fees, etc. Great Karma indeed!
Like many football fans on the west coast, they're old. Most of these viewers have no desire to drop their Comcast package, even if it means sacrificing the duck games. Boomers don't know how to sub to Youtube or Hulu, they'll default and turn on the radio. Just the reality of the situation. We'll be comparing the viewership numbers between Oregon State game and the Duck game next week!
I'm 63, it really wasn't that difficult to dump Comcast. They have sucked forever. I have HULU now. As a band from my era once sang, "Don't Look Back!" You're always so negative...not a lot of
My solution. Stream and use a family member's east coast cable service. My 91 year old mother lives golf and tennis so we pay for her sports cable package and get all ESPN channels including SEC & ACC which I log in/stream and get BTN with my Fox Sports Roku app. I dropped ESPN+ at $12 a month and signed up for BTN+ for $90/ year. Already watched a few Oregon soccer games live. Not too worried and already like BTN more tha P12 Network.
Another distribution failure due to a bad Comcast contract, which, as I've pointed out many times before, is the only kind of Comcast contract there is.
So Comcast customers are paying for something and Comcast is not delivering it to them as advertised? Get the Federal Trade Commission on the line, please.
Meanwhile, OSU and WSU will be available on broadcast TV in nearly every household in America....
Irony.
JC, for us UW fans in Oregon (97008), under current Comcast ‘rules’ - will UW games on BTN be blacked out here in Oregon? Same question for Duck fans living in Seattle. Will those fans be able to view Duck football games on BTN?
Is it funny to anyone that they are on the CW? It's funny to me. But happy that they will get national coverage.
So, why the beef with Oregon and UW? The Pac-2 is golden.
Because their actions ensured the Pac would collapse. The 10 teams that remained after the LA schools left were offered $30 million EACH by ESPN during their exclusive negotiating period. That wasn't enough. And then, before you know it, Ana Marie Cauce at UW orchestrated an agreement for UW and UO to leave the Pac-12, right as the remaining nine schools were about to sign the GOR and lock-in the Apple deal (which, admittedly, wasn't guaranteed as much money, but had plenty of potential). As a result, UW is only making about as much money in the B1G as they would've made if the schools had agreed to ESPN's offer, while incurring far greater travel costs (physical and financial).
They screwed over OSU & WSU, and have nothing to show for it.
Who cares about the baby beavs and crying cougars? I prefer the BIG Boys like Big 10, SEC, ACC, and Big 12. Oregon, Washington, USC, and UCLA were smart to get off the Pac 2 Titanic 2. Money and crowd size rule sports on tv. ESPN rules all sports. The rich get richer and bawling baby beavers and cougs got left behind because they never will catch the BIG BOYS. boo hoo GO DUCKS; movin' on up to catch the SEC within a few years.
I’m always asked why I don’t root for the ducks. Besides the fact that I’m a proud Oregon State Beaver, I also speak to the immaturity and lack of class of many of their fans as another reason. Thanks Donnie for providing me another example to show what I mean when I say that.
Donnie, I’m sick and tired of you bashing the Beavers, you won, move along and shut the hell up about the Beavers and Cougars!
There is free speech in America. Keep your comments to yourself and quit crying. I can write WHATEVER I WANT. If you do not like it do not read it. Beavers and Cougars are just plain losers and cry babies. Joan, keep you comments to yourself, or go see a counselor. Shut you stupid mouth and go vote for loser trump again. Real hard to fix stupid. DUMP TRUMP 2024
Donnie, there is absolutely free speech. However, there is no such thing as consequenceless speech. Our speech is free, but it still has consequences. You said something foolish and received the consequences through people trolling back at you for your trolling. Welcome to civil discourse. When you are less than civil, you are likely to find others will be also. AND, your comments about the "BIG" boys shows a significant lack of perspective on the current state of college athletics where the ACC is falling apart and the BIG12 has a lot of teams but little football strength compared to the BIG 10 and SEC. Lastly, until the Ducks have 300k people show up to tailgate and only 100,000 actually going into the game, they will still not be the equivalent of an SEC school. . .
Opinions are like ----; your comments show you have no clue about BIG BOY Football. The old pac-12 was going nowhere in football, and never would have been able to compete on the field, with the SEC, for at least five years. Now, the Oregon Ducks have a real shot at making the final four , and also winning the Big 10. There is a reason why OSU and WSU were left behind. It is called big money; the rich get richer and the smaller schools with small stadiums, and no real big fan base, are left in the dust. So sick of all you cry babies bashing Phil Knight. He and his wife have given money to all pac-12 schools, and not just for athletics. The total value of ESPN in billions of dollars is a huge number. Take the same total value of all pro teams in all sports, combined, and it is much lower than tv giant ESPN. Fact check me. I know football well, and I wager REAL MONEY on the NFL at Spirit Mountain and Chinook Winds casinos here in Oregon. I study the game. I do not usually bet the point spreads; I bet the odds. Am sure you do not understand real sports wagering. My maiden year in the NFL, 1984, I had my best year ever. I took the SF 49ers and Joe Montana every week for the first 13 weeks. At 2,200 dollars per game, I was up $26,000, and thought I could walk on water. I cleared $45,000 that year, winning $10,000 on the niners in the super bowl. I paid taxes on the winnings bets, and was able to write off expenses of going to Nevada weekly. I am picking the KC chiefs to go and win the super bowl again, just like three of the last four years.
The Acc is not falling apart at all; Clemson and others like Miami and Florida State are back. Your whole comment to my column gives you away as a wanna be football fan, who knows little about the SEC and the Big 10. Sure Autzen only holds, 60,000 or so. The Beavers play in a much smaller stadium; same for the WSU cougars. TV money rules all sports, and without it sports as we know them, would have much less of an impact. UCLA, USC, Washington, and Oregon were very wise to seize the opportunity to increase their revenue by leaving the Titanic2, also known as the PAC2. You are not wise to bash my take on the current state of college football . The live gate (your absurd comparison holds no real relevance ) has little to do with total athletic department money. TV money is where all the BIG BOY SCHOOLS like Alabama and Georgia fund most all their sports, both men and women. It also pays for professors, and people who work for the universities. Big money rules the world, and it also rules college athletics. Now, the players, through the NIL, are finally able to make money. You show a total lack of perspective Dan Euhus, by bashing my opinions. ESPN rules all sports on tv. If you want to win some of my money, take dony trump in the upcoming Presidential election. I am taking Ms. Harris, and I am a very liberal Christian democrat. I have never voted for a republican for President, and never will. All you trumpateers can eat ----- with a rusty spoon. Dump Trump 2024. If you do not like what I write, keep your opinion to yourself please. Money talks and ----walks. The all-new jv league of the PAC2 is going nowhere fast. I have supported my Oregon Ducks for just 61 years. I sat in the rain and watched them go 2-9 under Rich Brooks many years. I remember all the losses, better than I remember the huge wins. Mike Belotti won 70% of his games at Oregon. He brought in Chip Kelly. Now, we have a real coach in Dan Lanning, whose buyout of only $20 million, is one reason he will not leave Oregon anytime soon. He and his family love Eugene. He coached the defense at Georgia when they won a national championship. My dream of seeing my Ducks compete with anyone, anywhere, in football are here! The Ducks have been on college gameday as many times as Georgia, or Alabama. We will expand Autzen soon. Lanning could have gone to Alabama when Nick Sabin retired. So glad he chose to stay in Eugene. The best coaches in college are now at around 7 million per year, same as Lanning. People like Lincoln Riley (USC) Dabo Sweeney (Clemson) Chip Kelly (Ohio State) and many others, now make around 7 million anually. The journey of 1000 miles starts with one tiny step. All the schools that left the Pac-12 were smart to start somewhere, rather than go backwards like the PAC 2. To think I almost became a Beaver in 1963 still makes me shudder. I chose the Ducks, and have never looked back. My dad, at my first college football game, in Portland, Or. told me it best to pick either the Beavers or the Ducks. I am a proud native Oregonian, born in Portland, and I love my state and my country. The Oregon Ducks are a nationwide brand now, thanks to large donors and Nike. All the little babies at WSU and the Benton county baby beavers are crying so loud, I can still hear them here in Portland. Now that the college football playoffs has expanded to 12 teams, with some games played at the actual school, college football will be better than ever. You can lose one game, maybe two, and still become national champions. The BIG 10 and the SEC, may have more than one or two teams in the final 12. The top rated teams now can earn a first round bye, and play at home in their next game. College football is on the rise, both in fan support, and total revenue. GO DUCKS
See, you just can't help yourself but be a troll. Besides being an OSU alumni, I am also an alumni of a prestigious ACC school and I have lived in the land of the Big 12 and SEC for over 20 years. I probably have been tomore "BIG BOY" college football games in the last twenty years than you have even if you attended every Duck home game and traveled for every Bowl game (which I doubt). So, why don't you TRY to quit being a jerk and a troll and quit trying to insult people all the time. And with that. Good luck to you. Given all your comments about football (and somehow about Trump which seems completely irrelevant since no one else brought it up) I might suggest a good therapist also. But, I suspect your goal is to be impolite to people. So, I suspect this is just who you are as a person. . .
I am sorry for your Trump dillusions. I personally don't like the guy, but I'm also even keeled enough to not feel like I need to bring him up as an insult in arguments. It is sort of like having to "win" an argument by calling the other person a Nazi or Hitler.
That escalated rather quickly didn’t it?
Wow. There's a lot of delusion in your comment. Phil Knight has dumped a billion dollars into your football program, and how many Nattys do you have to show for it so far?
Phil has donated about $1b to the University, not just the athletic department. About $500m for athletics, the rest to a new Law School building; and new Business School building and a cancer institute at OHSU. He's also given north of $500m to Stanford, where he earned his MBA. Stop crying and start appreciating this man's generosity. And for what it's worth OSU has some very large donors too - just not quite in Knights league.
Nice try. Add up the Moshofsky, Hatfied Dowlin, Autzen expansion, MKA, MM8, scoreboard, Hayward Field and the new indoor practice facility. That's well over $1B. Now add in the $30M to $40M sports subsidy every year to balance the duck books, then add in the Division Street millions and finally, add up the Nike component. It's $2B in sports alone. Just looking for transparency and honesty.
And, to be fair, Phil has given to OSU, rather quietly.
Yes, extremely quiet. So quiet, we don't know if it actually happened.
Actually, the riches man in the world is an OSU alumni. The difference is, he is an engineer and not a sports show business man. So, his priorities don't go to athletics.
OUCH!
The CW is "available" but didn't exactly have stellar viewership for the ACC last season. Hope it is better for WSU/OSU. The CBSNet games are not available to every potential fan.
There's an element of a viewing thinking "What channel should I tune to in order to watch any random College Football game?". Over time, the CW wants to be in that list, but it obviously isn't there yet.
True. They shouldn't expect to draw very many casual viewers just searching for a random game at this point. The main goal was ensuring that anyone, anywhere, who *wants* to watch OSU/WSU games will be able to do so as easily as possible. And they accomplished that.
What a shame fans of the chickenshit schools who destroyed a 100 year-old conference for greed won’t be able to watch their money-grubbing teams play. Karma.
There are tons of other providers that don’t black out the games. Nice try though.
If by greed you mean survival, then you are correct.
No he means greed. And he is correct.
If you think that Apple deal that George K put together was going to keep the Pac 12 relevant, then you are only fooling yourself. It sucks y'all got left behind, but by no means should everyone else have gone down with the sinking ship.
NBA just signed a deal with Amazon Prime with a lot of Games including playoff games like the conference finals every other year. Blazers make the Western Conference finals? It's possible the only way you'll be able to watch is with a Prime subscription if Amazon gets it that year. NFL, MLB and MLS have Apple TV/Amazon only games. Granted those all also have some of their games on traditional TV.
That last sentence is key. The NBA is also the best basketball league in the World, they can do that.
A typical CFB Saturday window has games on ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, FS1, and on down the line. Why would anybody outside the Pac12 footprint pay an extra what I'm guessing would be in the area of $100 a year when they already have that smorgasbord of College Football available with a basic cable subscription?
Seriously how were they going to survive with no TV contract and three schools already gone and two more likely gone?
Survival? You couldn’t “survive” with Uncle Phil’s money & Apple? Can’t visualize the future of streaming? Clearly “loyalty” is not taught at UofOCC.
Seriously you need a reality pill, all Phils money is not going to keep Oregon relevant, you need top TV exposure and UW did not even have Phil. Three schools had already left, two more the Arizona schools were almost certainly going to leave, the conference was dead with no TV deal, OSU and WSU would have done the exact same thing if they could.
OSU President Murthy has stated otherwise. Please stop with these false assumptions as poor arguments.
LMAO, are you familiar with the phrase "out of sight, out of mind"? Because if you were, you'd know that the entire conference would have become irrelevant when every other conference is available on OTA or basic cable. I am fully aware of the future of streaming, however, we're still in the present and that deal in 2023 would have killed the conference. Its the easiest tool other schools can use against you in recruiting and forget ever getting a marquee opponent to come play a game that their fans would have to pay extra money to watch.
OSU would have been doomed to irrelevancy in either scenario, so again, why should every other school in the conference stay aboard a sinking ship when they have a life raft available to them?
Maybe because they pledged to “stick together” & then negotiated behind everyone’s back & left without warning?
There was plenty of rumbling about teams leaving, it just got louder once it became clear that George K was feeding everyone BS about having a deal in the works. That doesn't answer the question of why Oregon should have remained aboard a sinking ship.
You don’t think the nine remaining teams, along with options like SDSU, Boise State et Al wouldn’t make an attractive package? Agree that K & especially his predecessor f’d this up royally, and what the departing schools got (except Cal & Stanford) was clarity, but I’ve never seen much remorse from the schools or fans over the destruction of an historic conference.
Now the ticket prices for games far outstrip the average fan’s ability to pay, much like the other “professional “ sports. The duckies & puppies will likely make the cut into the 48 or 60 NFL minor league franchises. Honestly hope my alma mater continues to focus on being the best education university possible, not a school defined by the success or failure of its football team.
After Colorado left, before UO and UW, the PAC-12 was doomed
According to the Tucson paper, Arizona also had a deal with the Big12's Yormark from the day before. They waited to pull the trigger on that to within minutes after of UW and UO's announcement. They were waiting to see if Commissioner K could deliver something that would exceed Yormark. He didn't.
Tone down the bitterness, I feel for OSU and WSU and want the best for them but after USC, UCLA and Colorado all jumped ship and it appeared Arizona/ASU was as well, both schools would have done the same if they had the opportunity not to mention there was no viable TV deal for the conference.
the karma is that OSU and WSU are cry babies. money talks and ---walks. the rich get richer and the beavers and cougars are relagated to red headed step child status where they belong. quit sobbing and try and win some football games you losers. The mighty PAC2 is a joke; winner of cougs and beavers still does not qualify for the toilet bowl! GO DUCKS
I’m sure your team won’t head to a league that offers them money and conference security.
Not after the $200 million you left us , not to mention the $65 million you’re paying us lol.
cut the cable and all the Comcast/Xfinity foolishness and go with YouTube TV! You won't regret it!
Agreed. We cancelled Xfinity and signed up for YouTubeTV a couple years ago and have not looked back. Access and features were way beyond Xfinity.
I'm on this train as well! Just ditched sling and added YouTube TV. Wish I could spread the good news of streaming to the cable-inclined folks.
Can you get Oregon Duck football games this upcoming season?
The Boise State game might be streaming only on Peacock. Otherwise YouTubeTV should have them.
I’ll be watching! ❤️
Yes you can on the Big 10 network, and also on many other stations. They will be televised every game, as they have been for last few years. GO DUCKS
This article says the contrary.
Every Oregon game has been televised on some network since two games were not in 2007. Every game since 2008.
Each Big Ten member is required to have two games on Big Ten Network. A non-conference game, and a conference game. Though, some schools could end up with more than two, I suppose, instead of Fox, FS1. CBS, NBC, Peacock.
My issue is not Big Ten Network. My carrier doesn't have CBSNet so I won't be able to watch OSU/WSU at Mt. West venues home network.
1. Karma. Yeah.
2. Comcast’s stance doesn’t surprise me at all. They’re bleeding subscribers to streaming services; their revenue model depends on upselling premium content; they’re probably assuming rabid UO, UW, UCLA & USC fans will shell out the $10.
3. Fair warning to campus presidents: don’t believe everything you’re told by conference commissioners and other “insiders.” Once the romance is over and you’re married, reality sets in.
4. Enjoy the karma, Cougar and Beaver nations. You deserve it.
Re: #2 - As JC describes it, what Comcast is doing is far worse than just upselling. Once they get you into that $10/mo extra tier, they still aren't giving you the live games of your local team. I am guessing they bury certain language deep in the fine print of the service agreement that covers their ass, but not delivering the full service that they just sold you is a pretty dirty trick.
Makes me wonder if the BIG10 Network is as committed to airing so-called Olympic sports to the extent that the PAC12 Network did. (Seems to me Comcast in its fine print basically promised football coverage only?)
The conference offers a DTC streaming service called Big Ten + that fills in the gaps for non-revenue sporting events that Big Ten Network doesn't broadcast. But since every football game is aired live by either BTN or one of the conference's other TV partners, that won't help with the blackouts. You can watch archived football games on Big Ten +, but not sure how long after the game is played before it is available to stream. Also BTN will rebroadcast games it showed to fill air time during the overnight hours, and I'm not sure if Comcast's blackouts will apply to that as well.
Football replays on B1G+ are supposed to be available the day after the games are played.
Next day replays? How cool is that? Reminds me of the Coaches shows after Monday Night football and right before the weekend local news shows Sunday night back in the 60's and 70's. Jim Sweeney's were the best, rationalizing 63-16 losses on channel 6 in Spokane right after AFL (well, Raider) games Sunday afternoons, saying, "well, these boys played hard." Sometimes fans even came out of the stands at Joe Albi to help pitch in.
It all sucks. Fan interests are way secondary.
Yep, good Karma. Comcast sucks so this will hopefully force many to dump Comcast and subscribe to one of the many providers that don’t black out the games, no contracts, no extra fees, etc. Great Karma indeed!
I have YouTube TV and it looks like the Saturday UW game should be available there. Ditch cable and go for streaming...I hope!!
Think you won't be alone.
I have to chuckle. I’m reminded of the phrase, “they’d f up a 1 car parade” welcome to the B1G!! Oh well, both OSU and WSU will be available for view, AND accessible.
Unfortunately, only for football, and Portland’s CW affiliate will show OS baseball.
Wait a minute!!! I think we now know where Larry Scott is….
Ha Ha. Karma, baby. Well deserved.
We left Comcast two years ago, as did pretty much everyone I know. The rates were outrageous & the customer service department was nonexistent. Bring on the season & as always GO DUCKS 💚💛
If everybody left, why is this such a big problem? I'll hang up and take your answer off the air.
Not a “big problem” for those people I know who left. I don’t recall commenting “everybody” I said pretty much everyone I know. Have a great day😊
Yep, good Karma. Comcast sucks so this will hopefully force many to dump Comcast and subscribe to one of the many providers that don’t black out the games, no contracts, no extra fees, etc. Great Karma indeed!
Like many football fans on the west coast, they're old. Most of these viewers have no desire to drop their Comcast package, even if it means sacrificing the duck games. Boomers don't know how to sub to Youtube or Hulu, they'll default and turn on the radio. Just the reality of the situation. We'll be comparing the viewership numbers between Oregon State game and the Duck game next week!
I'm 63, it really wasn't that difficult to dump Comcast. They have sucked forever. I have HULU now. As a band from my era once sang, "Don't Look Back!" You're always so negative...not a lot of
sunshine in You're 🍊
Mr. Sunshine,
Ageist much?
Whoa, Nellie! What would Keith Jackson say?
My solution. Stream and use a family member's east coast cable service. My 91 year old mother lives golf and tennis so we pay for her sports cable package and get all ESPN channels including SEC & ACC which I log in/stream and get BTN with my Fox Sports Roku app. I dropped ESPN+ at $12 a month and signed up for BTN+ for $90/ year. Already watched a few Oregon soccer games live. Not too worried and already like BTN more tha P12 Network.
Boo hoo. Cry me a river duck and husky fans.
This girls not crying, we dumped Comcast over 2 years ago. Go Ducks😊
GO DAWGS
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Ah, my heart aches for the traitors
Another distribution failure due to a bad Comcast contract, which, as I've pointed out many times before, is the only kind of Comcast contract there is.
Irony. If one listens closely, Alanis Morissette can be heard singing in the background.
Why does anybody in the year of our Lord and Savior 2024 still have Comcast as their TV provider?
Amen!
So Comcast customers are paying for something and Comcast is not delivering it to them as advertised? Get the Federal Trade Commission on the line, please.
[so glad I have YouTubeTV]