It’s a major indictment of USC and UCLA that there doesn’t appear to have been any similar effort to keep the California rivalry games running with Cal and Stanford.
It’s a major indictment of USC and UCLA that there doesn’t appear to have been any similar effort to keep the California rivalry games running with Cal and Stanford.
I wouldn't assume Cal and Stanford are interested in playing those two. There's a lot of bitterness and not much scheduling need speaking from the Cal fan side of things.
I have no dog in the fight, but I know UCLA lobbied hard to keep other UCs from moving to to the FBS with the argument that 2 was enough and more would split the talent and funding too much. Then they abandoned Cal.
They're just seen as a conniving and undehanded program within the UC system.
Cal are a bunch of academic snobs, sure, but they're not the ones with the history of screwing over the other UCs athletic programs.
I think you have it a tad wrong. Cal and UCLA are part of the UC system. It’s common knowledge they (and USC) wanted no part of SDSU (CSU system) in the PAC 12.
It’s been the Aztecs’ goal since leaving the PCAA in the late 1970s.
I suppose Fresno State and SJSU (CSU BCS teams) coveted the P12, but I doubt they were considered at all until the recent exodus.
The only other UC school to play football is UC Davis of FCS.
I would think Cal and Stanford do have a scheduling need, since they are going from a conference that played 9 games to one that only plays 8. Seems to work perfectly for them to match up with OSU/WSU to fill each other's void.
The part about OSU trying to play Virginia makes zero sense though. It means a cross-country trip and I skeptical that Virginia is going to fill Reser Stadium (they are about on par with Purdue, who play there next year).
Travel for one game further away has frequently happened for Pac12 schools. Texas, Hawaii, Ohio and many other places. One game in Virginia is not abnormal.
I"m assuming Cal plays Oregon State in 2024-25-sounds like it's nearly a done deal. It's possible that Cal would have a need in 2026 for another game but it's cross country travel for ACC makes many think that Cal should schedule schedule winnable games. It already plays at Florida in 2026 so it doesn't have a burning need for another Power 2 opponent IMO.
It’s a major indictment of USC and UCLA that there doesn’t appear to have been any similar effort to keep the California rivalry games running with Cal and Stanford.
I am going to let those schools worry about themselves/
I wouldn't assume Cal and Stanford are interested in playing those two. There's a lot of bitterness and not much scheduling need speaking from the Cal fan side of things.
Especially between Cal and UCLA.
Basically every UC system school hates UCLA. They're arrogant turds.
That’s rich. Berkeley has always looked down on the Baby Bears. And then UCLA surpassed them big time.
I have no dog in the fight, but I know UCLA lobbied hard to keep other UCs from moving to to the FBS with the argument that 2 was enough and more would split the talent and funding too much. Then they abandoned Cal.
They're just seen as a conniving and undehanded program within the UC system.
Cal are a bunch of academic snobs, sure, but they're not the ones with the history of screwing over the other UCs athletic programs.
I think you have it a tad wrong. Cal and UCLA are part of the UC system. It’s common knowledge they (and USC) wanted no part of SDSU (CSU system) in the PAC 12.
It’s been the Aztecs’ goal since leaving the PCAA in the late 1970s.
I suppose Fresno State and SJSU (CSU BCS teams) coveted the P12, but I doubt they were considered at all until the recent exodus.
The only other UC school to play football is UC Davis of FCS.
I didn't bring up SDSU or SJSU.
So are you saying UCLA screwed over UC Davis? UCSD?
I would think Cal and Stanford do have a scheduling need, since they are going from a conference that played 9 games to one that only plays 8. Seems to work perfectly for them to match up with OSU/WSU to fill each other's void.
The part about OSU trying to play Virginia makes zero sense though. It means a cross-country trip and I skeptical that Virginia is going to fill Reser Stadium (they are about on par with Purdue, who play there next year).
Travel for one game further away has frequently happened for Pac12 schools. Texas, Hawaii, Ohio and many other places. One game in Virginia is not abnormal.
I"m assuming Cal plays Oregon State in 2024-25-sounds like it's nearly a done deal. It's possible that Cal would have a need in 2026 for another game but it's cross country travel for ACC makes many think that Cal should schedule schedule winnable games. It already plays at Florida in 2026 so it doesn't have a burning need for another Power 2 opponent IMO.
Yep. They were so fracking important before that we ended up with the strange inter-division scheduling. Now not so important.
I have a hard time believing Cal-UCLA won't end up being scheduled regularly once everything shakes out.
USC and UCLA will play each other in B1G. Cal and State Stanford are facing off in the ACC. Sigh. Those are the big rivalries.
But definitely could see them playing in the future. If the UC system stuck its nose in on Calimony, why not demand they play?