In basketball the Big 12 will be fine and competitive with anyone. Football is a different story. The conference is losing two of the top eight or so historical football programs and replacing them with what feels like C-USA programs. The Pac still has Oregon, Washington, and Utah. While they haven't won national titles in recent mem…
In basketball the Big 12 will be fine and competitive with anyone. Football is a different story. The conference is losing two of the top eight or so historical football programs and replacing them with what feels like C-USA programs. The Pac still has Oregon, Washington, and Utah. While they haven't won national titles in recent memory my recollection is that Oregon has played for two and Washington has made the playoff.
I was looking at one recruiting service's ranking of states on the number of prospects in the top 247 (guess whose rating this was) for the last cycle. Traditional SEC states were 1, 3, 5, and 6 (FL, GA, AL, and LA) with TX (a newer SEC state) checking in at #2. My guess, and it's only a guess, is the SEC states are even more heavily concentrated with defensive linemen. Someone (Phil Knight) establishing a west coast IMG Academy type institution would give more elite players exposure to schools west of the Rockies.
These two leagues need to schedule more games with the other big three conferences and win their fair share of those games. That's how Bobby Bowden built FSU into a power.
I'd like to see it. I watched more Pac-12 football last year than I ever have and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Pretty funny how Utah and TCU were Mountain West schools you all looked down upon 20 years ago. Now they are better teams and brands than maybe Oregon. Reading this thread the more things change with the snooty old school crowd the more they stay the same.
I'll speak to what I know best - Alabama. This season they host Texas and go to USF. In 2024 they go to Wisconsin and host USF. In 2025 they p[lay at FSU and host Wisconsin. In 2026 it's at WVU and hosting FSU. In 2027 they're at Oho State and host WVU. In 2028 they're at Oklahoma State and hosting Ohio State. 2029 - at Notre Dame and hosting Oklahoma State. You get the picture. After 2029 they have home and homes with Georgia Tech, Boston College, Minnesota, Arizona, and Virginia Tech.
Yeah, a bunch of nobodies and they won't leave the south.
In basketball the Big 12 will be fine and competitive with anyone. Football is a different story. The conference is losing two of the top eight or so historical football programs and replacing them with what feels like C-USA programs. The Pac still has Oregon, Washington, and Utah. While they haven't won national titles in recent memory my recollection is that Oregon has played for two and Washington has made the playoff.
I was looking at one recruiting service's ranking of states on the number of prospects in the top 247 (guess whose rating this was) for the last cycle. Traditional SEC states were 1, 3, 5, and 6 (FL, GA, AL, and LA) with TX (a newer SEC state) checking in at #2. My guess, and it's only a guess, is the SEC states are even more heavily concentrated with defensive linemen. Someone (Phil Knight) establishing a west coast IMG Academy type institution would give more elite players exposure to schools west of the Rockies.
These two leagues need to schedule more games with the other big three conferences and win their fair share of those games. That's how Bobby Bowden built FSU into a power.
I'd like to see it. I watched more Pac-12 football last year than I ever have and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Pretty funny how Utah and TCU were Mountain West schools you all looked down upon 20 years ago. Now they are better teams and brands than maybe Oregon. Reading this thread the more things change with the snooty old school crowd the more they stay the same.
That will never happen. BiG and SEC are creating a world where they play conference, nobodies and post season games.
I'll speak to what I know best - Alabama. This season they host Texas and go to USF. In 2024 they go to Wisconsin and host USF. In 2025 they p[lay at FSU and host Wisconsin. In 2026 it's at WVU and hosting FSU. In 2027 they're at Oho State and host WVU. In 2028 they're at Oklahoma State and hosting Ohio State. 2029 - at Notre Dame and hosting Oklahoma State. You get the picture. After 2029 they have home and homes with Georgia Tech, Boston College, Minnesota, Arizona, and Virginia Tech.
Yeah, a bunch of nobodies and they won't leave the south.