I would like to thank John for his kind words about me the grocery checker from Safeway West Linn. I am 68 years and 5 months. I love my job and customers very much. I think it important to state something I rarely share but in this case it is important to the background on all of this. I have been in recovery for nearly 35 years. My tag line at work is happy happy, happy happy. How else can you live your life (really). To the people of West Linn it has been a lifetime with you folks (24) years. I am not in a hurry to get to the other side. I will be fine on the other side (in case you wondered).
Thanks for this thoughtful note, Charles!!!! People like you make "this side" appreciate the value of relationship. May God Bless you always my Good Man!!!! Glad you are a part of the BFT Tribe!!
I find that my excitement for college football is basically gone. As an 65 year OSU fan I am still very bitter about everything! Being thrown in an MWC ash heap is and will always be as tragic as one can imagine! I have absolutely no respect for anything associated with the Ducks. I remember watching the arrogance of the Oregon leadership as they testified before the legislative committee. They couldn’t have care less. I completely reject their notion that presently they don’t get much state support. Everyone seems to forget the decades they depended on the state’s taxpayers.
I am rooting for the Beavers to come out of this in a respectable place, which is not the MWC.
Here's my counter. I am a 69 year old OSU fan who has lived in Corvallis for 44 years and for the first time ever I bought a season ticket for the Beavs in football this year. Given how the Beavs played previously I always knew I could get tix for the game I wanted to see in Corvallis and did. Still I even traveled to see the Beavs in a few Bowl games including the Sun Bowl last year. I also got 2 season tix for Beaver gymnastics and WBB and plan to get one in Baseball because I am more worried about the other sports for the Beavs and hope they can stay competitive in this transition.
The predicament the Beavs are in is 100% due to the LA schools who felt that they could do better than the PAC12 and the remaining 10 presidents who over valued what a 10 team PAC12 could be worth. From those decisions and actions, ultimately all 10 remaining schools had to find a "respectable place" out of this as that George K Apple TV contract no matter how much blame you want to put on the other schools was not that. Six schools found safer havens that had guaranteed better value, the first of which who jumped Colorado was given a bonus to help destroy the PAC. UW & Oregon went on a discount to the Big10, but still already have a better situation than any of the other 8 schools. Stanford & Cal decided they were better off taking pennies on the dollar in the ACC than tie their fate with OSU and WSU.
For me it is time to support the team with a commitment because I too hope "they come out of this in a respectable place" but I am not naive enough to think the MWC is too good for us. I think both the MWC and WCC appreciate OSU being part of their conferences this year and I am sure the Big 12 appreciates getting OSU and Gold medalist Jade Carey in Gymnastics this year. The only way that OSU/WSU can show their value is to make sure we have the stands full and show our support. Excitement matters to these athletes and we have that opportunity to make a difference. Then maybe Theresa Gould and the OSU/WSU ADs and presidents will find a solution which may be better than the MWC, even if the PAC reincarnates in some reverse merger to preserve some history.
I am excited to see where the future will hold for the Beavs and refuse to act the victim to our "evil" cross state rivals. You want to compete against the best and our state now has that. We need to show the Beavers can belong like the Ducks . I attended the preseason Oregon State Oregon Volleyball game Saturday that had 2000+ Beaver fans rooting on the team to beat Oregon in this match that didn't count but meant so much to the fans and the Oregon State team as the Beavs won 3-1. That September 14th game at Reser will have similar emotion. It most likely will be the most watched Beaver football game this year and it is important that the Beavs show how much it means and make it competitive. Looking back with anger and dispair about what happenned won't get the Beavs a respectable place. Earning their respect will.
Man this is spot on Edward! My first game was the 1967 3-0 USC game. My son created the film Legend Of The Giant Killers!!! I moved back to Corvallis 2 years ago after a 40 year career in Southern California. I am all in on the BEAVS!! There is some optimism in the Valley for a lot of reasons!!! ALL OSU Fans need to lean in NOW and get behind these coaches and their players!! We have 2 of the best college coaches in the nation in Scott and Mitch!! I am optimistic Trent will have the BEAVS D looking a bit like the 2000 Fiesta Bowl D!! We need some offense, and we will be very competitive. If Gundy and Kyle D can coach the boys up on O look out!!!
I am glad I moved here from LA in 2002, so I don't have to hate the Ducks. In LA I rooted for UCLA, which I attended and taught for many years. And UCLA fans hated USC. But that always seemed silly, so I rooted for them too. And I am a fan of both Ducks and Beavers.
You promised to quit crying about the baby Beavs' ill fortune. We Ducks are proud fans, and after sitting in the rain and losing for many years, I sure am glad to be a lifelong huge Duck. Maybe OSU can win the Pac 2 either this year or next.
There are Duck fans in most every state in the USA. Alumni are all over the world. They have a national brand. Disney and Donald Duck have not hurt the duck brand either.
The games are decided on the field, and Penn State may draw 107,000 people to their home games, but they are not a top notch team. Look at their record vs. Michigan and Ohio State. Joe Paw ended up having his name taken off a building at Nike in Beaverton.
I thought your use of “sole “ was sort of clever until I read “I’m hate the ducks but not all duck fans. But some times that dislike does extend to some fans as well.”
I suggest you slow down and gather yourself. I appreciate snappy patter, even anti Duck insults, but man, you butcher the English language.
Worry about the guy you see when you look in the mirror. I am a lifelong Duck supporter (only 61 years) and have stayed faithful through thick and thin. I have lost more games than I have won. I sat in cold, pouring rain, and lost, for many years. GO DUCKS
See my comment above...it's broken. Get outdoors, play more golf and pickle-ball or table tennis on Saturdays. Be very intentional about the teams you watch. I didn't watch Florida State vs Georgia Tech, I watched New Mexico and Montana State (it was a very enjoyable game with plenty of tension and ebb and flow). How about the job Bronco Mendenhal is doing and the fact that he chose to come back to New Mexico and help kids grow for the right reasons. That should be a huge story for you John :)
Norvell watched DJ enough to know what's up. DJ has a 5 star pedigree, a 5 star body, 5 star athleticism and a 5 star NFL arm, BUT, he has an Intel Pentium I processor, throws the ball at the feet of open WRs and ignores wide open targets. The QB clock says he should have entered the NFL draft last April, but he took a knee. Kinda obvious why at this point. I don't think another year at FSU will help.
I have mentioned this before: My friend in Eugene is a certified welding inspector. He worked at Autzen during the 2004 expansion. He saw some plans for an expansion in the future. The seats and rows on the opposite side as the roof side, would be built up and could make the place hold between 75,000 and 80,000. I have prayed for this to happen every season since the Chipster was there.
I am a huge supporter and donor to the U of O for just 61 years. I predict Oregon could have a super year, and I expect to see them compete for the BIG 10 title. I love Coach Lanning; he was a super pick . He can recruit,his players like him, and he and his family love Eugene. The culture he has built is rock solid. I am praying, no matter what happens this year, that Oregon will do an expansion now. They are in a BIG BOYS league now, and support for them is at an all-time high. I will see all games this year, as always, and cannot wait for sweet revenge against the baby beavers, and the dawgs from Seattle, in person at Autzen. I will also go down there for Chip Kelly and Ohio State, and Michigan State too. I plan to travel to Madison, Wisconsin, and also to Ann Arbor, Michigan, as they have been on my wish list for years. We have all the pieces, and I am beyond excited for the season to start. GO DUCKS
Ann Arbor and Madison are two great choices to see football, Donnie. And Autzen really does need a reasonable expansion. Even though I’m not a Duck, I hope they get it done.
Nope, I will be in Duck gear sitting on the 50 yard line. Pat Reser was a 6th grade teacher of mine in Hillsboro, Or. in 1963. Yes, that Reser. She told me her husband made potato salad. I still buy Reser products made in Beaverton. Pat recently gave only $20 million to the city of Beaverton for an arts building. She was a super teacher. She and her late husband, Al, are life long Beavers. Both very high quality people, to say the least. I am almost 73, so she has to be in her 90s. GO DUCKS, looking forward to sweet revenge in Civil War 2024!
Do you think it will really be a 75,000 type expansion, or more a 5,000 to 10,000 seat expansion to around 60,000 to 65,000, but with the new seats high dollar donation seats similar to what was done in the 2001 expansion?
Agree with Scholz on stadium expansion. Tap the brakes a bit until the Big Ten honeymoon has passed, and analyze how much effect a fully televised schedule has on ticket demand, especially given the multiple TV network options that arrive this season. Study the population demographics? Are ticket buyers starting to age away which seems to be the case across all conferences. Do newer Oregon residents want to see the Ducks in person? Is there an inflection point on ticket and concession prices that will reduce demand, especially if more seats mean buyers can avoid buying season tickets? Will more seats impact donors who may no longer feel they need to donate to get reasonably good seats? Do you want to add debt payments for construction when new revenue from the Big Ten may be needed elsewhere in athletics - especially "player salaries"? And so on...
The trend regarding stadium renovations is to offer more amenities, not more seats. But, if Oregon opts to increase the capacity of Autzen, then an expansion of I-5 better be included in the budget.
13 of DJ Uiagalelei's 19 completions were thrown 5 yards or less down the field. Was that DJ's view of the field, or the O-coord's decision?
To balance that observation a bit, remember pre-NFL-draft when Nix was criticized as a dink and dunk artist as the reason for his high completion percentage. Got quite a few W's with that approach.
Dope sales in Michigan vs California? Every state that borders Cali has legal dope. A buyer doesn't have to cross the border into Cali. That is not true of Michigan border states. That's also one of the reasons sales in Colorado is high.
The Utah tidbit about their dominance at home is incredible, along with all of the sellouts. I'm sure Washington has impressive numbers too, but the Utah attendance stats and the team's recent success at home surprised me.
Since this thread is going there, here's mine. I am closing in on my 61st birthday. I spent the first 12 years of my life in Eugene and was the 3rd of four generations in our family to graduate from UO. I have loved the Ducks for as long as I can remember. I bear no malice toward Beaver fan and have empathy for OSU and Wazzu. Ya'll don't deserve what has happened and I am cheering for you to emerge triumphant from the wreckage. For real.
Thanks for that, John. You can never go wrong waxing about college football. For all the changes the sport has recently seen, many of them not great, there are still few things in life better than fall Saturdays.
HI John: Will fans outside of the Pcific NW be able to watch Beaver and Cougar football games on THe CW?. We live near Phoenix, and I am very concerned we will miss Football, Basketball and Baseball games all season.
Yes, your PHX CW affiliate will carry all the same games as those shown in the NW, along with all the other CW affiliates across the US. OSU and WSU will have better exposure now than they did with the full Pac-12.
We saw last year with DJU at Oregon State and a QB friendly HC, that despite his very favorable size and athleticism that DJU has a low football IQ and cannot read defenses accurately or quickly enough to find the open receiver. This makes him prone to interceptions and sacks. His best play is usually to run, because of his size and speed. A move to FSU was not going to change any of this. He has reached his ceiling, unfortunately
I was trying to think of a college QB who rode his HS bona fides further in his college career than DJ. None came to mind. As a Duck fan, I certainly did not fear his abilities in last year's CW. Big time fanfare when he came out of HS and went to Clemson. A fair amount of hoopla when he transferred to the Beavs. This past offseason when it came out that he was transferring again, I asked "Who?"
I would like to thank John for his kind words about me the grocery checker from Safeway West Linn. I am 68 years and 5 months. I love my job and customers very much. I think it important to state something I rarely share but in this case it is important to the background on all of this. I have been in recovery for nearly 35 years. My tag line at work is happy happy, happy happy. How else can you live your life (really). To the people of West Linn it has been a lifetime with you folks (24) years. I am not in a hurry to get to the other side. I will be fine on the other side (in case you wondered).
Charles... thank you for posting here. "Happy, Happy..." are words to live by.
Thanks for this thoughtful note, Charles!!!! People like you make "this side" appreciate the value of relationship. May God Bless you always my Good Man!!!! Glad you are a part of the BFT Tribe!!
I find that my excitement for college football is basically gone. As an 65 year OSU fan I am still very bitter about everything! Being thrown in an MWC ash heap is and will always be as tragic as one can imagine! I have absolutely no respect for anything associated with the Ducks. I remember watching the arrogance of the Oregon leadership as they testified before the legislative committee. They couldn’t have care less. I completely reject their notion that presently they don’t get much state support. Everyone seems to forget the decades they depended on the state’s taxpayers.
I am rooting for the Beavers to come out of this in a respectable place, which is not the MWC.
People say get over it, that is not possible.
Gerald,
Here's my counter. I am a 69 year old OSU fan who has lived in Corvallis for 44 years and for the first time ever I bought a season ticket for the Beavs in football this year. Given how the Beavs played previously I always knew I could get tix for the game I wanted to see in Corvallis and did. Still I even traveled to see the Beavs in a few Bowl games including the Sun Bowl last year. I also got 2 season tix for Beaver gymnastics and WBB and plan to get one in Baseball because I am more worried about the other sports for the Beavs and hope they can stay competitive in this transition.
The predicament the Beavs are in is 100% due to the LA schools who felt that they could do better than the PAC12 and the remaining 10 presidents who over valued what a 10 team PAC12 could be worth. From those decisions and actions, ultimately all 10 remaining schools had to find a "respectable place" out of this as that George K Apple TV contract no matter how much blame you want to put on the other schools was not that. Six schools found safer havens that had guaranteed better value, the first of which who jumped Colorado was given a bonus to help destroy the PAC. UW & Oregon went on a discount to the Big10, but still already have a better situation than any of the other 8 schools. Stanford & Cal decided they were better off taking pennies on the dollar in the ACC than tie their fate with OSU and WSU.
For me it is time to support the team with a commitment because I too hope "they come out of this in a respectable place" but I am not naive enough to think the MWC is too good for us. I think both the MWC and WCC appreciate OSU being part of their conferences this year and I am sure the Big 12 appreciates getting OSU and Gold medalist Jade Carey in Gymnastics this year. The only way that OSU/WSU can show their value is to make sure we have the stands full and show our support. Excitement matters to these athletes and we have that opportunity to make a difference. Then maybe Theresa Gould and the OSU/WSU ADs and presidents will find a solution which may be better than the MWC, even if the PAC reincarnates in some reverse merger to preserve some history.
I am excited to see where the future will hold for the Beavs and refuse to act the victim to our "evil" cross state rivals. You want to compete against the best and our state now has that. We need to show the Beavers can belong like the Ducks . I attended the preseason Oregon State Oregon Volleyball game Saturday that had 2000+ Beaver fans rooting on the team to beat Oregon in this match that didn't count but meant so much to the fans and the Oregon State team as the Beavs won 3-1. That September 14th game at Reser will have similar emotion. It most likely will be the most watched Beaver football game this year and it is important that the Beavs show how much it means and make it competitive. Looking back with anger and dispair about what happenned won't get the Beavs a respectable place. Earning their respect will.
Go Beavs!
Very well said! I am a Duck graduate and fan and wish nothing but the best for the Beavs.
Thanks Quackman!!! Appreciate the positivity!!!
Man this is spot on Edward! My first game was the 1967 3-0 USC game. My son created the film Legend Of The Giant Killers!!! I moved back to Corvallis 2 years ago after a 40 year career in Southern California. I am all in on the BEAVS!! There is some optimism in the Valley for a lot of reasons!!! ALL OSU Fans need to lean in NOW and get behind these coaches and their players!! We have 2 of the best college coaches in the nation in Scott and Mitch!! I am optimistic Trent will have the BEAVS D looking a bit like the 2000 Fiesta Bowl D!! We need some offense, and we will be very competitive. If Gundy and Kyle D can coach the boys up on O look out!!!
I hated the Ducks in 1970, while still in junior high. Nothing has changed for me. If anything, they are even more despised today than then
I am glad I moved here from LA in 2002, so I don't have to hate the Ducks. In LA I rooted for UCLA, which I attended and taught for many years. And UCLA fans hated USC. But that always seemed silly, so I rooted for them too. And I am a fan of both Ducks and Beavers.
You promised to quit crying about the baby Beavs' ill fortune. We Ducks are proud fans, and after sitting in the rain and losing for many years, I sure am glad to be a lifelong huge Duck. Maybe OSU can win the Pac 2 either this year or next.
Donald, hate to break it to you but outside of spewgene nobody gives a rats ass about *ucks!
There are Duck fans in most every state in the USA. Alumni are all over the world. They have a national brand. Disney and Donald Duck have not hurt the duck brand either.
well PSU football only draws 4,000 people at home, and Portland is much larger than Eugene.
Portland? You have much to learn about the Big10! Your land fill you call a stadium is no match for PSU!
The games are decided on the field, and Penn State may draw 107,000 people to their home games, but they are not a top notch team. Look at their record vs. Michigan and Ohio State. Joe Paw ended up having his name taken off a building at Nike in Beaverton.
After you sold your soul to Uncle Phil. How high does he require you jump when he orders it? Do you just say YES SIR!
I'm hate the ducks but not all duck fans. But some times that dislike does extend to some fans as well.
Welcome to the bottom of the Big 10!!,
Mr. Hamilton,
I thought your use of “sole “ was sort of clever until I read “I’m hate the ducks but not all duck fans. But some times that dislike does extend to some fans as well.”
I suggest you slow down and gather yourself. I appreciate snappy patter, even anti Duck insults, but man, you butcher the English language.
I did misspell soul.
If that is all you got I am sorry for you.
Mr. Hamilton,
I have much more, but feel it would be wasted on you.
Bottom of Big 10? Think you got your facts mixed up, if you have any. You must mean the OSU baby beavers finishing last in the Pac 2.
Come on Donnie!!! I am concerned about your well being.
Worry about the guy you see when you look in the mirror. I am a lifelong Duck supporter (only 61 years) and have stayed faithful through thick and thin. I have lost more games than I have won. I sat in cold, pouring rain, and lost, for many years. GO DUCKS
And we are a Duck family!
See my comment above...it's broken. Get outdoors, play more golf and pickle-ball or table tennis on Saturdays. Be very intentional about the teams you watch. I didn't watch Florida State vs Georgia Tech, I watched New Mexico and Montana State (it was a very enjoyable game with plenty of tension and ebb and flow). How about the job Bronco Mendenhal is doing and the fact that he chose to come back to New Mexico and help kids grow for the right reasons. That should be a huge story for you John :)
Norvell watched DJ enough to know what's up. DJ has a 5 star pedigree, a 5 star body, 5 star athleticism and a 5 star NFL arm, BUT, he has an Intel Pentium I processor, throws the ball at the feet of open WRs and ignores wide open targets. The QB clock says he should have entered the NFL draft last April, but he took a knee. Kinda obvious why at this point. I don't think another year at FSU will help.
Bingo....I am thinking more like a Intel 80386 processor. I won't even give him Pentium processing capability
I have mentioned this before: My friend in Eugene is a certified welding inspector. He worked at Autzen during the 2004 expansion. He saw some plans for an expansion in the future. The seats and rows on the opposite side as the roof side, would be built up and could make the place hold between 75,000 and 80,000. I have prayed for this to happen every season since the Chipster was there.
I am a huge supporter and donor to the U of O for just 61 years. I predict Oregon could have a super year, and I expect to see them compete for the BIG 10 title. I love Coach Lanning; he was a super pick . He can recruit,his players like him, and he and his family love Eugene. The culture he has built is rock solid. I am praying, no matter what happens this year, that Oregon will do an expansion now. They are in a BIG BOYS league now, and support for them is at an all-time high. I will see all games this year, as always, and cannot wait for sweet revenge against the baby beavers, and the dawgs from Seattle, in person at Autzen. I will also go down there for Chip Kelly and Ohio State, and Michigan State too. I plan to travel to Madison, Wisconsin, and also to Ann Arbor, Michigan, as they have been on my wish list for years. We have all the pieces, and I am beyond excited for the season to start. GO DUCKS
Ann Arbor and Madison are two great choices to see football, Donnie. And Autzen really does need a reasonable expansion. Even though I’m not a Duck, I hope they get it done.
Good for you. But I think you'll be sitting alone at Autzen for that Beavers game... 😂
Nope, I will be in Duck gear sitting on the 50 yard line. Pat Reser was a 6th grade teacher of mine in Hillsboro, Or. in 1963. Yes, that Reser. She told me her husband made potato salad. I still buy Reser products made in Beaverton. Pat recently gave only $20 million to the city of Beaverton for an arts building. She was a super teacher. She and her late husband, Al, are life long Beavers. Both very high quality people, to say the least. I am almost 73, so she has to be in her 90s. GO DUCKS, looking forward to sweet revenge in Civil War 2024!
I know the game is in Corvallis. Duh
Wow!
Do you think it will really be a 75,000 type expansion, or more a 5,000 to 10,000 seat expansion to around 60,000 to 65,000, but with the new seats high dollar donation seats similar to what was done in the 2001 expansion?
The expansion was in 2004. I was told it could go to 80,000, to fill out the bowl completely. This would add about 20,000 seats. Go Ducks!
Agree with Scholz on stadium expansion. Tap the brakes a bit until the Big Ten honeymoon has passed, and analyze how much effect a fully televised schedule has on ticket demand, especially given the multiple TV network options that arrive this season. Study the population demographics? Are ticket buyers starting to age away which seems to be the case across all conferences. Do newer Oregon residents want to see the Ducks in person? Is there an inflection point on ticket and concession prices that will reduce demand, especially if more seats mean buyers can avoid buying season tickets? Will more seats impact donors who may no longer feel they need to donate to get reasonably good seats? Do you want to add debt payments for construction when new revenue from the Big Ten may be needed elsewhere in athletics - especially "player salaries"? And so on...
So obvious, yet hadn’t heard it put this way before: “He doesn’t throw picks, but can’t throw anyone open.”
With DJ, when you stand back, the curtains don’t match the carpet.
The trend regarding stadium renovations is to offer more amenities, not more seats. But, if Oregon opts to increase the capacity of Autzen, then an expansion of I-5 better be included in the budget.
Freeway expansions in this state - if they happen at all - are measured in decades, not dollars.
Now if you were talking about adding unused bike lanes, that would be done by next Spring.
I thought the same thing John. Same old DJU. As a beaver fan I loved to see it.
13 of DJ Uiagalelei's 19 completions were thrown 5 yards or less down the field. Was that DJ's view of the field, or the O-coord's decision?
To balance that observation a bit, remember pre-NFL-draft when Nix was criticized as a dink and dunk artist as the reason for his high completion percentage. Got quite a few W's with that approach.
Dope sales in Michigan vs California? Every state that borders Cali has legal dope. A buyer doesn't have to cross the border into Cali. That is not true of Michigan border states. That's also one of the reasons sales in Colorado is high.
The Utah tidbit about their dominance at home is incredible, along with all of the sellouts. I'm sure Washington has impressive numbers too, but the Utah attendance stats and the team's recent success at home surprised me.
Will Utah (and BYU) be able to play Sunday games if that is what the TV Networks want?
31-2 in last 33. I believe the two losses were to Oregon and USC. A couple weeks before starting that 33 count was a loss to Washington.
Since this thread is going there, here's mine. I am closing in on my 61st birthday. I spent the first 12 years of my life in Eugene and was the 3rd of four generations in our family to graduate from UO. I have loved the Ducks for as long as I can remember. I bear no malice toward Beaver fan and have empathy for OSU and Wazzu. Ya'll don't deserve what has happened and I am cheering for you to emerge triumphant from the wreckage. For real.
Thanks for that, John. You can never go wrong waxing about college football. For all the changes the sport has recently seen, many of them not great, there are still few things in life better than fall Saturdays.
HI John: Will fans outside of the Pcific NW be able to watch Beaver and Cougar football games on THe CW?. We live near Phoenix, and I am very concerned we will miss Football, Basketball and Baseball games all season.
Yes, your PHX CW affiliate will carry all the same games as those shown in the NW, along with all the other CW affiliates across the US. OSU and WSU will have better exposure now than they did with the full Pac-12.
We saw last year with DJU at Oregon State and a QB friendly HC, that despite his very favorable size and athleticism that DJU has a low football IQ and cannot read defenses accurately or quickly enough to find the open receiver. This makes him prone to interceptions and sacks. His best play is usually to run, because of his size and speed. A move to FSU was not going to change any of this. He has reached his ceiling, unfortunately
Yep. FSU is going to see what Clemson and Oregon State fans already know. DJ just hasn't got it.
I was trying to think of a college QB who rode his HS bona fides further in his college career than DJ. None came to mind. As a Duck fan, I certainly did not fear his abilities in last year's CW. Big time fanfare when he came out of HS and went to Clemson. A fair amount of hoopla when he transferred to the Beavs. This past offseason when it came out that he was transferring again, I asked "Who?"
Yes 👍 I would like be a Sunday college game!