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Jim Burns's avatar

They might not have always been equal but there was never an $80-$100 mil a year difference in revenue BEFORE Tyee Club donations. Huge difference.

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EA Flash's avatar

There will not be a $100 million difference in revenues now, either, since UW is only getting about $30 million a year from the Big Ten for the foreseeable future.

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Jim Burns's avatar

That's media deal money only. Plus CFP money, plus Big 10 network money, plus ticket sales to Big 10 games vs ticket sales to MWC games, plus other Big 10 money. The $30 mil is only their share of mega media deal. You're leaving out so much more.

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EA Flash's avatar

And you are acting as if WSU will have no other income. WSU gets CFP money. It will sell tickets. It will get other Pac-2 money.

You think the Weber State, Northwestern and Eastern Michigan games will sell out Husky Stadium?

Yes, there will be a difference. Not disputing that. It won't be $100 million.

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Jim Burns's avatar

CFP money. UW $21 mil, WSU $3 mil. Media money. UW $30 mil to start, increasing to full share after 5 years, projected to be $80 -$100 mil per year. WSU, projected $1 mil per football game but has to pay MWC $1 mil per game, even to play away games; projected income, nothing. Additional income? Even the Big 10 conference conference championship game sells out Lucus Oil Stadium every year and average ticket prices are around $500 or higher, and that's IF you can even get them, plus corporate sponsorship dollars. The conference makes well over $50 mil on that one game a year. Same with the men's conference basketball tournament. Last year a little more than 35% of conference pay out to Big 10 teams came from money in addition to media payouts. That equates to about $21 mil per school, of which UW will get a full share. So even at its very least next year UW will get $30 mil from media, $21 mil from CFP and $21 mil additional conference money. That's $72 mil right off the top. WSU gets about zero dollars in media money, $3 mil in CFP money and will have to decide how much of the war chest they want to use, but has to get agreement from OSU. Then you factor in the difference between making game day money from a Big 10 schedule in Husky stadium and Hec Edmunsen vs a MWC football schedule and WCC conference basketball schedule for WSU. So yes, even next year the revenue difference will be around $80 mil and over the next 5 years will easily exceed $100 mil and probably more. I haven't even added in the extra recruiting benefits that will now come with UW recruiting to a power 2 conference and WSU recruiting to no conference, NIL, transfer portal advantages,etc. The difference between UW and WSU, same goes for Oregon and OSU, will the same as it used to be between WSU and Eastern Washington, or OSU and Portlamd State. There's a reason those aren't rivalries and the same principles will now apply to the Apple Cup and Civil War. I know you want to ignore it and continue to pretend nothing has happened that will change anything, but that's not stopping reality.

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EA Flash's avatar

Now factor in expenses.

And paragraphs are your friend.

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Jim Burns's avatar

Yep, those numbers were already released last year. About $10 mil in additional travel expenses versus staying in the Pac 12. Not enough to make a difference in the HUGE disparity of income.

No they aren't.

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