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Brian M's avatar

Paid millions $$ per year to make the tough decisions and take the heat. Just about anyone can do what Cauce is doing and not take any responsibility for their actions.

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Curly Moe & Larry's avatar

You are all clueless. Anyone can manage 55,000 employees? Manage an institution that is among the top ten in the US in grant money awarded. And you are attacking a leader respected by faculty, students and legislators??? Keep reading these guys and other "well sourced" folks. I'm sure you will get nothing but facts and truth.

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Brian M's avatar

No, it seems you are the one who is clueless. First, no President of a large organization manages 55,000 people. That is a lie right there. She might have 10 or 12 direct reports and manages them. Second, I never mentioned "management". It is more like mismanagement not to take accountability which is Job #1 for any leader. So, if you want to rephrase that and say that Cauce MISMANAGES 55,000 people, we can agree.

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The Miami Ute's avatar

How right you are Brian...at my height (retired now), I had over 600 people that I was in charge of and, even at such a low number, I still had quite a few people that reported to me and actually managed and executed the day to day functions of the operation.

All university presidents are is essentially "helmsmen", trying to steer a big ship in one direction, and the face of the organization, although at times they're eclipsed by uber successful football and basketball coaches.

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Brian M's avatar

Thanks Miami....its been a while. Yes, I was also in corporate management (sales) much of my career. I had 66 people under me at the peak, but managed through my 12 direct reports. I can say from experience, that is as many as any one person should handle. It requires all the HR details of performance reporting, hiring, firing, team meetings, personal relationships, etc. I enjoyed the people part but not the admin part, which I hate. But no one could ever handle 20 direct, I don't think, at least not effectively. It is called limiting "the span of management"

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The Miami Ute's avatar

Absolutely Brian...I'm absolutely certain that a person like Cauce, like most senior leaders in any field in this world, has a number of "gatekeepers" that manage what information gets to her and who has access to her time.

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Ben Johnson's avatar

That is truly what leaders in academia are...GATEKEEPERS...the real story is who puts them there and what are they guarding (against)...that is the true story of this implosion of the P12. Why did it implode, who triggered the implosion, and what secrets are they guarding (the true agenda)...to be continued.

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Ed S.'s avatar

Trying to wash away the collective actions of these leaders as being respected by all and great managers of many is a non-starter. And so is the CYA exercise that started yesterday (formally). There are plenty of people responsible for this fiasco, beginning with the abject weak, incompetent Kliavkoff. He is the one who was charged with giving the academics a reality check. He failed. Completely. You canтАЩt operate as a collegial team when making tough decisions.

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Maverick's avatar

I'm with you Ed S. This is at the commissioners feet. He should have done the homework and the math to explain to the presidents how ludicrous the counter of $50 million was. They weren't educated enough to vote for that counter offer... he should have known that.

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Maverick's avatar

Well now that the three stooges have weighed in, I guess everyone else is clueless eh? Not sure if it was Curly, Larry or Moe who brought the 'clueless' insult to this discussion. Whichever of you came up with that and thinks a president manages 55,000 employees is misinformed. I wonder if these presidents ever thought, let's all take this back to our own senior management teams and get their POV before blowing the ESPN deal up.

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Charles A Roseberry's avatar

Well played CM&L; it is a challenging job that demands a lot of different skills. The largest, illustrated by the last question asked during a final interview at a university asked by one regent, father of a friend of mine. "I only have one question, can you raise money?" Just sayin", Charlie

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