I thought the blown call on the spot of the OSU drive on Oregon's 5 yard line at the end of the half was huge, and turned the momentum of the game at that point. Inexcusable
This reminds of a saying I had in the workplace. The only thing worse than training someone and have them leave, is to not train them and have them stay. So why is the PAC 12 concerned about the Big10 poaching officials. Create a trained pipeline and having a few good ones leave won’t be a problem.
In a meritocracy these rules would never be uttered
1. Officials can’t work the championship game two years in a row.
2. First-year officials are not eligible to work the game.
In a kakistocracy, they make perfect sense and preserve the current state of officiating in the PAC 12. Unbelievable that they continue to embrace a system that delivers poor results. TRY SOMETING NEW PAC 12!
Do you think you will actually be allowed to ask your questions, John? Pin them down on the horrible calls during the Civil War. Will they even say if there are any consequences for sub par officiating? My understanding, according to their 'transparency' protocol, they must address the issue of blown calls that can affect the outcome of a football game.
So let me get this straight...if the best officials in the Pac 12 officiated the game last year...it's probable, in fact likely, that many of these same officials graded out tops this year...but they can't go because why? F**k fairness! What kind of a circus are we running here?
The Apple Cup this year was one of the worst officiated games I’ve ever seen. Fortunately it seemed to impact both teams equally, but it was embarrassingly bad. The questions I would ask are, “What is your specific plan going forward to improve the poor officiating? What are the root causes and how do you plan to address them?”
Merton Hanks has been in charge of this for over two years now, so one could argue he’s a big part of the problem, and if he doesn’t have a credible improvement plan, it’s time to find someone who does.
Officials on the field will make mistakes, but isn’t that why the replay system was put in place?
The PAC 12 should fully explain why, with replay, they didn’t correct the spot and both the how and why the white hat claimed the spot was “confirmed”. This was a 2+ foot obvious “discrepancy”, and their failure to properly spot the ball for the next play did affect the the game. It appeared that this crew was more focused on speed and the reviews seemed cursory, imho. Has there been some recent emphasis to speed of replay reviews by the PAC 12?
I guess my point is that if replay isn’t used properly, why have it at all?
Lastly, a minor issue, but this was a nationally televised game by ABC. I am curious why there was no former expert official included with the broadcast team.
These are deep, dangerous waters for the PAC. The GK/MH duo needs to get this and a fair few other things right. Let's go, guys. You've got the mettle; time to show it.
Thank you John. They also need to change video reviews. Let a coach toss the red flag once a game on any play for “non-reviewable” plays. If not overturned they lose a down or get a 10 yard penalty. I’m amazed at some bad calls that can’t be overturned now with no review allowed. Keep up the good work and pressure on the league.
The present “kinder, gentler” style of football that has developed over the years, designed by rule to protect players, has made an official’s job almost impossible, not to mention extremely subjective. The difference between a hard, “legal” hit and calling targeting or a personal foul is tough to discern in today’s game.
Now, as far as dumb*ss attacks like poor spots, clock mis-management, “gee, what down is it?”, to name a few, are atrocious, embarrassing, unacceptable, and unprofessional. Too much depends upon an official’s competency and ability to control the game transparently for this to continue.
Lot’s of discussion going on. Should be interesting to watch the process unfold.
After that call was confirmed during the civil war, all I can picture is the the replay guy sitting in the booth looking like mel brooks as the governor in blazing saddles.
what the over/under on there just not being officials because they lost track of the date for the game or spotted it 3 days short and mis booked their tickets?
The PAC-12 really needs to bring back Tony Corrente (or someone of his stature and experience) to take over the officiating and oversee a major overhaul. Hanks probably needs to be let go, or told to not have anything to do with the officiating, and Kliavkoff should step back and let the pros handle officiating.
I have noticed on big plays that a lot of players refrain from even celebrating too much before they look back and look around and make sure there isn’t some BS flag thrown to ruin everything
Those are two incredibly stupid exceptions. The best officials should be at the Championship game.
That being said, there should be per game wages for each official PLUS a pool of bonus money that should be split annually per week [to reward the best-performing crews each week] & at year end (to reward the highest-rated AND the best-improved [from last year, over time, or whatever rubric makes sense] splitting the bonus money] individual officials). This would incent the best officials to stay and newer officials to get better at their jobs.
As far as other conferences "poaching" the best officials, why should this be surprising? The entire college football system is being driven by money. Memo to the Pac-12 management: find more money to fund your officiating system! Since King Scott and his wasteful bureaucracy has seemingly been overthrown, take some of the 1/13th share of revenue that the league used to claim and re-purpose it towards bulking up the officiating compensation pool.
I thought the blown call on the spot of the OSU drive on Oregon's 5 yard line at the end of the half was huge, and turned the momentum of the game at that point. Inexcusable
This reminds of a saying I had in the workplace. The only thing worse than training someone and have them leave, is to not train them and have them stay. So why is the PAC 12 concerned about the Big10 poaching officials. Create a trained pipeline and having a few good ones leave won’t be a problem.
In a meritocracy these rules would never be uttered
1. Officials can’t work the championship game two years in a row.
2. First-year officials are not eligible to work the game.
In a kakistocracy, they make perfect sense and preserve the current state of officiating in the PAC 12. Unbelievable that they continue to embrace a system that delivers poor results. TRY SOMETING NEW PAC 12!
Do you think you will actually be allowed to ask your questions, John? Pin them down on the horrible calls during the Civil War. Will they even say if there are any consequences for sub par officiating? My understanding, according to their 'transparency' protocol, they must address the issue of blown calls that can affect the outcome of a football game.
So let me get this straight...if the best officials in the Pac 12 officiated the game last year...it's probable, in fact likely, that many of these same officials graded out tops this year...but they can't go because why? F**k fairness! What kind of a circus are we running here?
The Apple Cup this year was one of the worst officiated games I’ve ever seen. Fortunately it seemed to impact both teams equally, but it was embarrassingly bad. The questions I would ask are, “What is your specific plan going forward to improve the poor officiating? What are the root causes and how do you plan to address them?”
Merton Hanks has been in charge of this for over two years now, so one could argue he’s a big part of the problem, and if he doesn’t have a credible improvement plan, it’s time to find someone who does.
Officials on the field will make mistakes, but isn’t that why the replay system was put in place?
The PAC 12 should fully explain why, with replay, they didn’t correct the spot and both the how and why the white hat claimed the spot was “confirmed”. This was a 2+ foot obvious “discrepancy”, and their failure to properly spot the ball for the next play did affect the the game. It appeared that this crew was more focused on speed and the reviews seemed cursory, imho. Has there been some recent emphasis to speed of replay reviews by the PAC 12?
I guess my point is that if replay isn’t used properly, why have it at all?
Lastly, a minor issue, but this was a nationally televised game by ABC. I am curious why there was no former expert official included with the broadcast team.
I would REALLY like to believe the games are on the level.
As an Oregon State fan, this is increasingly difficult.
These are deep, dangerous waters for the PAC. The GK/MH duo needs to get this and a fair few other things right. Let's go, guys. You've got the mettle; time to show it.
Thank you John. They also need to change video reviews. Let a coach toss the red flag once a game on any play for “non-reviewable” plays. If not overturned they lose a down or get a 10 yard penalty. I’m amazed at some bad calls that can’t be overturned now with no review allowed. Keep up the good work and pressure on the league.
The present “kinder, gentler” style of football that has developed over the years, designed by rule to protect players, has made an official’s job almost impossible, not to mention extremely subjective. The difference between a hard, “legal” hit and calling targeting or a personal foul is tough to discern in today’s game.
Now, as far as dumb*ss attacks like poor spots, clock mis-management, “gee, what down is it?”, to name a few, are atrocious, embarrassing, unacceptable, and unprofessional. Too much depends upon an official’s competency and ability to control the game transparently for this to continue.
Lot’s of discussion going on. Should be interesting to watch the process unfold.
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Another great article
After that call was confirmed during the civil war, all I can picture is the the replay guy sitting in the booth looking like mel brooks as the governor in blazing saddles.
what the over/under on there just not being officials because they lost track of the date for the game or spotted it 3 days short and mis booked their tickets?
The PAC-12 really needs to bring back Tony Corrente (or someone of his stature and experience) to take over the officiating and oversee a major overhaul. Hanks probably needs to be let go, or told to not have anything to do with the officiating, and Kliavkoff should step back and let the pros handle officiating.
I have noticed on big plays that a lot of players refrain from even celebrating too much before they look back and look around and make sure there isn’t some BS flag thrown to ruin everything
Those are two incredibly stupid exceptions. The best officials should be at the Championship game.
That being said, there should be per game wages for each official PLUS a pool of bonus money that should be split annually per week [to reward the best-performing crews each week] & at year end (to reward the highest-rated AND the best-improved [from last year, over time, or whatever rubric makes sense] splitting the bonus money] individual officials). This would incent the best officials to stay and newer officials to get better at their jobs.
As far as other conferences "poaching" the best officials, why should this be surprising? The entire college football system is being driven by money. Memo to the Pac-12 management: find more money to fund your officiating system! Since King Scott and his wasteful bureaucracy has seemingly been overthrown, take some of the 1/13th share of revenue that the league used to claim and re-purpose it towards bulking up the officiating compensation pool.