As a parent, as a business owner, I have learned that sometimes rushing into a decision can be the poorest decision. Sometimes letting things simmer presents options and a far better solution than getting out the "paddle board". John, I think you are the one who is anxious. So far I still like what I am hearing or should that be NOT hearing.
Hats off to John and Jon for all of the terrific reporting these last few months. It’s been outstanding. Meanwhile, I can’t help but wonder about potential bias from the sources that are providing all of the various media outlets with their insight (including J & J). A lot of solid journalists are working this story, but the interpretation of what’s happening is all over the map.
At this point I've lost respect and interest in USC and UCLA (and I'm a USC alumn). I'll never get over this. I don't care about the Big Ten and those fans and that money or whatever. The fit is bad and it's happening for the wrong reasons.
Would love to see the Pac-10 survive intact and become the focus of sports out West.
I have to believe the 4th school is in Texas. Rice or Houston make sense, but could it possibly be Baylor? I've always thought CSU makes sense to keep CU in the conf. Natural travel partner and rival.
I like the Colorado State fit. Feels more like the culture and identity of a Pac12 School. I know people are hunting for media markets but I get the idea market size valuation is going to be a question the media partners are going to start to ask about. Like "Yea I hear you can get into Dallas market but how many people in that region will be watching?"
The winners from conference realignment will be the SEC, and the stronger half of the B1G.
The losers will be the weaker half of the B1G (who now have USC as an opponent in the way of a conference championship), UCLA (who will now have to travel much farther to achieve the same above-average results, negating any benefits of their financial windfall), and the Big12 (whose acolytes continue to desperately try making the Pac12 look weak as compensation for losing Oklahoma and Texas to the SEC).
The parties for whom this will be neither a net gain nor a net loss are the Pac12 (losing USC and UCLA's market revenue will be offset by having an easier path to the CFP), USC (who will be good, but not great, in the B1G), and the ACC (who is patiently taking notes while they ponder their potential options a few years from now).
Good stuff, John. I'm guessing some folks in the know are happy to be able to talk to you, off the record of course, as a counter-balance to all the negativity out there right now.
Agree that Colorado State is redundant and would have little value. Also wondering who that 4th school might be? If SMU is in play, which it sounds like they are, wonder if it would be another school in the Central Time Zone that could expand the conference's reach by playing in that noon ET window. Tulane?
Good feedback. But somebody's toe must be getting really sore from kicking tires. Let's just hope we don't end up with a flat tire after all this negotiation.
Solid. I hope but doubt the streaming services could sell a package just for sports, or just for PAC12 sports, or something without having to join a full service. I know the point is to bring subscribers into the fold for the full subscription.
Measure twice. Cut once.
—No need to rush.
Looking down the road 10 years I wonder if the UNLV decision won’t come back to bite them from an athletic standpoint.
If I’m the Big 12 I invite them and Fresno and I have an in to the west and Vegas $$$.
I will be interesting
As a parent, as a business owner, I have learned that sometimes rushing into a decision can be the poorest decision. Sometimes letting things simmer presents options and a far better solution than getting out the "paddle board". John, I think you are the one who is anxious. So far I still like what I am hearing or should that be NOT hearing.
The most interesting thing from all this speculation outside the PAC 12 footprint, is our name is being repeatedly spoken by others.
What's the term... Any publicity is good publicity...
…”better schools, better markets and better ratings.” Love that attitude!
Hats off to John and Jon for all of the terrific reporting these last few months. It’s been outstanding. Meanwhile, I can’t help but wonder about potential bias from the sources that are providing all of the various media outlets with their insight (including J & J). A lot of solid journalists are working this story, but the interpretation of what’s happening is all over the map.
At this point I've lost respect and interest in USC and UCLA (and I'm a USC alumn). I'll never get over this. I don't care about the Big Ten and those fans and that money or whatever. The fit is bad and it's happening for the wrong reasons.
Would love to see the Pac-10 survive intact and become the focus of sports out West.
I have to believe the 4th school is in Texas. Rice or Houston make sense, but could it possibly be Baylor? I've always thought CSU makes sense to keep CU in the conf. Natural travel partner and rival.
A good update. As many times as John has used the term “kick the tires,” I would not be surprised to see him owning a used car lot down the road. 😎
4th best Power 5 deal. Survive don’t thrive.
I like the Colorado State fit. Feels more like the culture and identity of a Pac12 School. I know people are hunting for media markets but I get the idea market size valuation is going to be a question the media partners are going to start to ask about. Like "Yea I hear you can get into Dallas market but how many people in that region will be watching?"
The winners from conference realignment will be the SEC, and the stronger half of the B1G.
The losers will be the weaker half of the B1G (who now have USC as an opponent in the way of a conference championship), UCLA (who will now have to travel much farther to achieve the same above-average results, negating any benefits of their financial windfall), and the Big12 (whose acolytes continue to desperately try making the Pac12 look weak as compensation for losing Oklahoma and Texas to the SEC).
The parties for whom this will be neither a net gain nor a net loss are the Pac12 (losing USC and UCLA's market revenue will be offset by having an easier path to the CFP), USC (who will be good, but not great, in the B1G), and the ACC (who is patiently taking notes while they ponder their potential options a few years from now).
And there you have it. Canzano has officially gone beast mode. Solid, sourced, and succinct. This should douse more than a few fires!
Good stuff, John. I'm guessing some folks in the know are happy to be able to talk to you, off the record of course, as a counter-balance to all the negativity out there right now.
Agree that Colorado State is redundant and would have little value. Also wondering who that 4th school might be? If SMU is in play, which it sounds like they are, wonder if it would be another school in the Central Time Zone that could expand the conference's reach by playing in that noon ET window. Tulane?
Good feedback. But somebody's toe must be getting really sore from kicking tires. Let's just hope we don't end up with a flat tire after all this negotiation.
Solid. I hope but doubt the streaming services could sell a package just for sports, or just for PAC12 sports, or something without having to join a full service. I know the point is to bring subscribers into the fold for the full subscription.