Related to a previous comment, why does no one mention the Portland TV market when discussing the $$ value of the ducks or the Beavs? I know Portland is not LA or even Denver, but there's probably more OSU and UO grads in the Portland area than in Corvallis and Eugene, which is what they seem to look at.
The ducks and uncle phil need to face the reality they're not the national brand or market they think they are. They still seem to recruit well, or brag how they do, but not producing on the field or court.
Football aside...that would be pretty incredible for basketball, both recruiting, and ticket sales. Football not so much...Clemson< Oh yeah....FSU...mmm Ok... Wake forest? North Carolina? Syracuse? yawn. But if it opens those area's to more exposure and recruiting then yeah go for it. There just aren't many if any pluses for the PAC members going to the big 12.
USC and UCLA will, in fact, get some more media money. But they’re going to lose out on some recruits. The reason CU wanted to move to the PAC-12 is that their recruits wanted to play on the West Coast more often. USC and UCLA will end up in the same boat in a few years, and it’ll cut into their ability to recruit (especially UCLA, who isn’t remotely a powerhouse).
Imagine bringing UNC and Duke to Eugene and Corvallis for basketball games every-other year. It could make the Pac-Ten a premier basketball conference again. Wouldn't that be cool!
Washington DC would be part of the ACC market, not Big XII. West Va is not close enough to DC to warrant calling DC a Big XII market. Sacramento, Portland and Tucson markets are also valuable to PAC12
John, thanks for years of entertaining articles. Did Commish Thompson give you any other pertinent Pac 10 schools media rights perceived value ? Like Stanford, UCLA, $C, UW ??
Looking a bit into the future, at what point do the Big two conferences start discarding their own members? Aka, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State in the SEC or Minnesota, Illinois in the Big10 for other schools? Would the Big10 really prefer to have Minnesota and Illinois rather than Oregon or Washington?
The best and most realistic scenario for the PAC12 would be to merge 8 schools with the Big 12 and form the first 20 team superconference and beat the Big 10 and SEC to the punch. That's where they're headed anyway.
As necessary as it may be, I absolutely hate the idea of Oregon in the Big Ten. A merged Pac-12 and Big 12 (which would be eight) could... could... have some clout. America's too damn big to have just two super conferences. And, when all these mergers are dissolved anyway for one 40 or 48 team super conference with four divisions, Oregon would be in a better position. I think. I hope.
The ACC partnership is a good move--way better than a Big12 one, imo. But I still think Oregon will hitch its wagon to the Big10 if they open the doors, regardless of their share. PK will subsidize--he's a competitor.
You can include Portland as a market that the Pac-X covers 😂, what percentage of your readers are Oregonians? High I’d presume. I’ve never understood why you Oregonians have such an inferiority complex
Related to a previous comment, why does no one mention the Portland TV market when discussing the $$ value of the ducks or the Beavs? I know Portland is not LA or even Denver, but there's probably more OSU and UO grads in the Portland area than in Corvallis and Eugene, which is what they seem to look at.
I think the ACC and Pac-12 partnership would be great!
The ducks and uncle phil need to face the reality they're not the national brand or market they think they are. They still seem to recruit well, or brag how they do, but not producing on the field or court.
How likely is it that the up and coming Beavers get left in the dust, with a newly renovated stadium? Keep us updated on any noise you hear!
Football aside...that would be pretty incredible for basketball, both recruiting, and ticket sales. Football not so much...Clemson< Oh yeah....FSU...mmm Ok... Wake forest? North Carolina? Syracuse? yawn. But if it opens those area's to more exposure and recruiting then yeah go for it. There just aren't many if any pluses for the PAC members going to the big 12.
Making my call:
USC and UCLA will, in fact, get some more media money. But they’re going to lose out on some recruits. The reason CU wanted to move to the PAC-12 is that their recruits wanted to play on the West Coast more often. USC and UCLA will end up in the same boat in a few years, and it’ll cut into their ability to recruit (especially UCLA, who isn’t remotely a powerhouse).
This is short-term gain, long-term pain for them.
Please, no more alliances. The Pac-12 needs to grow eyes in the back of its head, lest it get stabbed there again.
Imagine bringing UNC and Duke to Eugene and Corvallis for basketball games every-other year. It could make the Pac-Ten a premier basketball conference again. Wouldn't that be cool!
Washington DC would be part of the ACC market, not Big XII. West Va is not close enough to DC to warrant calling DC a Big XII market. Sacramento, Portland and Tucson markets are also valuable to PAC12
John, thanks for years of entertaining articles. Did Commish Thompson give you any other pertinent Pac 10 schools media rights perceived value ? Like Stanford, UCLA, $C, UW ??
" ... ACC vs. Pac-12 championship game in Las Vegas at the end of the season. ..."
Wooho.
Who could possibly give 2 small turds about that?
Looking a bit into the future, at what point do the Big two conferences start discarding their own members? Aka, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State in the SEC or Minnesota, Illinois in the Big10 for other schools? Would the Big10 really prefer to have Minnesota and Illinois rather than Oregon or Washington?
The best and most realistic scenario for the PAC12 would be to merge 8 schools with the Big 12 and form the first 20 team superconference and beat the Big 10 and SEC to the punch. That's where they're headed anyway.
As necessary as it may be, I absolutely hate the idea of Oregon in the Big Ten. A merged Pac-12 and Big 12 (which would be eight) could... could... have some clout. America's too damn big to have just two super conferences. And, when all these mergers are dissolved anyway for one 40 or 48 team super conference with four divisions, Oregon would be in a better position. I think. I hope.
The ACC partnership is a good move--way better than a Big12 one, imo. But I still think Oregon will hitch its wagon to the Big10 if they open the doors, regardless of their share. PK will subsidize--he's a competitor.
You can include Portland as a market that the Pac-X covers 😂, what percentage of your readers are Oregonians? High I’d presume. I’ve never understood why you Oregonians have such an inferiority complex