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Jack Bird's avatar

"They were a 2 to 5 win program (under Rich Brooks) until the mid 90s and did not recruit any better than the Beavers."

I believe those were your exact words and Oregon clearly, based upon results under the Brooks era, recruited much much better than the Beavers.

The Beavers were literally one of the worst teams in college football during the Brooks era and Oregon was in the middle, so to speak.

That wasn't just coaching, it was also recruiting. OSU actually had some decent coaches during that era and couldn't win with them if their lives depended upon it.

That is the comment I was responding to, which should have been obvious from the focus of my response. The Rich Brooks era.

As for the NIKE era, you state the obvious with regards to Oregon, I didn't disagree with it and hence, didn't discuss it in my post.

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Brian M's avatar

Here is an article to help you understand. And this was Phase 2. I will see if I can find a Phase 1, mid 80s story as well: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/pac12/2014/12/29/oregon-nike-phil-knight-college-football-playoff/21013009/

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Brian M's avatar

You can try all you want to misdirect, but I am not taking the bait. Phil Knight got personally involved in the football program around 1985 and began pumping money into the Ducks facilities and recruiting, building a new training facility, offering a team jet, etc. Plus, he upped the advertising game to feature Nike with the Ducks uniforms which got a lot of national attention. That is what changed the direction of the Ducks program. Until then, the two were almost identical in performance (the Beavers a little worse because Andros was a terrible AD). My point is that Brooks was no better a recruiter or coach than Avezzano, until Phil Knight's involvement. The money pumped into a program, the quality of the coaching and the AD front office, is what determines the recruiting and performance of the team. Got it?

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Jack Bird's avatar

What bait, Brian.

Seriously?

This is a mostly friendly chat room and you seem to think this is Fox News on steroids.

I'm not wasting anymore time with you.

My point was not to rile you up, which I clearly did.

It was to disagree with your obviously incorrect comments regarding the Rich Brooks era as compared to OSU's performance.

That's it.

No bait, Brian-just a comment.

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