It’s coming. None of this is any secret. It’s out there for anyone to document. There may not be a better sports journalist in the state of Oregon than Canzano. His work exposing Larry Scott and the inept P12 chain of conference leaders and school execs was spot on. Yet I have not read a single Canzano piece regarding the mechanisms of p…
It’s coming. None of this is any secret. It’s out there for anyone to document. There may not be a better sports journalist in the state of Oregon than Canzano. His work exposing Larry Scott and the inept P12 chain of conference leaders and school execs was spot on. Yet I have not read a single Canzano piece regarding the mechanisms of payment from say Division Street or other U of Oregon backed NIL funding to prospective athletes. NIL endorsement is one thing. Compensating a Bo Nix for his name, imagine and likeness while playing for Oregon is within the rules. Paying a prospective U of Oregon player…..while still in HS……to sign with the school or even just to VISIT the school……is not NIL. It’s pay to play. It’s blatant cheating. It happens at several schools…notoriously. Texas A&M, Miami…..and Oregon. This is no secret. Why isn’t Oregons best sports journalist writing or talking about this? Because his readers are comprised of a heavy percentage of rabid Oregon fans. They don’t want to know. And the schools lone majority benefactor……fully complicit…..is not to be crossed by Canzano or any other sportswriter when it comes to this topic. OR……..did you thing Oregon was suddenly signing massive HS stars from Texas and California at previously unseen rates- simply because Oregon was winning more games and also for their notoriously well regarded academic diploma, excellent year round weather, and reputation for entertainment and cultural diversity in the town of Eugene?? Justin Wilcox, a legacy Oregon former player, passed on an Oregon HC offer because he was NOT comfortable with these illegal recruiting practices he was expected to use, leading to Oregon hiring Dan Lanning and a staff like the notoriously dirty Tosh Lupoi, to lean fully into these practices. Where is the award winning journalism done to look into all of this? You’ll never find it locally. Understandably…..John needs to keep his subscription base and access to his most in demand topic.
You might have a point. I have noticed how Oregon, which was a 30ish or 40ish recruiting team 10=15 years ago and earlier, while OSU in the same locale and a larger school was running 50ish-60ish, all of a sudden jumped to Top 10 in recruiting. How does that happen? Oregon already had the Nike aura 10 years ago and earlier, back to 1985 or so. So that was no step change. Why did Oregon jump over 20 or more of the top football programs in the country in a 5-10 year period? This would explain all of that. They paid for it. I always knew that PK was trying to buy a championship, but this explains how.
Chip Kelly had multiple teams that were more successful than either Lanning coached Oregon team. Mario cristobal as well. So it’s not “winning big” Also the facilities and uniform combinations and any other reason given have been factors for years. Still doesn’t explain a massive sudden uptick. Lanning is just a great recruiter? I don’t doubt he’s persuasive and relentless. But those qualities didn’t get last minute flips from guys like Conerly and Matayo U. Cash did. Pay for play. This isn’t even a secret. Oregon is known and talked about for this in CFB. And for half the investigative reporting effort Canzano or Wilner have put into multiple other topics it wouldn’t be hard to uncover this but that will never happen. If you are Phil Knight you don’t spend hundreds of millions of dollars desperately trying to win your alma mater a title but stop short of paying the actual key players a relatively small percentage of that. Of course they do. And to your point Brian- of course nothing else make sense to explain it. And listen: Im stating it, I’m not even judging it. It’s CFB today and the SEC has done it for decades, now they just have NIL as a front. I just think it’s hilarious that Lanning has brown bag money to buy players and STILL can’t be the best team in the PNW much less west coast. Must be maddening to watch UW operate clean and come out on top.
And UW doesn't do the same? Evidence of how "clean" they are is what? If the era of NIL is here, what makes you so sure Washington isn't dong the same--higher or lower profile?
Brian, according to Rivals, UO was ranked 13th in 09 and according to 247, UO was ranked 12th in 2010, 12th in 2011, 14th in 2012 and 19th in 2013, your so called 10-15 year window when you said they were a 30th or 40thish recruiting team.
Time flies. Look at 2001 and 2002. This buying of success has been underway a long time. The quantum leap in success was not the Nike affiliation. Just like to know if PK's purchases are legal or illegal
From memory. Yes, when I look at 247 it was early 2000s when the Ducks were in the 30s. So what? It doesn't change the thesis. It only means that PK has cheated a lot longer than I thought. Maybe you think there is some statute of limitations for the beginning of cheating? SMU got the death sentence for buying players. Many teams, including USC, have been penalized. If college football is going to be sustainable as COLLEGE football and not the NFL, then the hammer has to come down on these programs that try and buy success
l don't smear anyone. I raise the issue that the NCAA has stopped regulating college sports and as SCfotheWin suggests, it has become the Wild West. Phil Knight is notorious for a no-holds barred approach to competition. Read his book, Shoe Dog. He takes great pride in that. So why do you think he doesn't take the same approach at Oregon? He owns the athletic department, that is clear. He probably owns the admin as well for all the money he has given the university (that is the point). And I am not saying Oregon and PK are alone in dishonesty. It is rampant in the FBS and in all of society. This is the same character flaw in America that is causing an epidemic of crime in the cities that is never prosecuted.
The NCAA suffers from the same sickness. I just say to enjoy it while you can. It is not sustainable. It will all go down in flames..
So you choose 2004 to question me when I said "look at 2001" when it was 32nd. So there is the step change. If I were the NCAA I would start there and look for witnesses to interrogate.
It’s coming. None of this is any secret. It’s out there for anyone to document. There may not be a better sports journalist in the state of Oregon than Canzano. His work exposing Larry Scott and the inept P12 chain of conference leaders and school execs was spot on. Yet I have not read a single Canzano piece regarding the mechanisms of payment from say Division Street or other U of Oregon backed NIL funding to prospective athletes. NIL endorsement is one thing. Compensating a Bo Nix for his name, imagine and likeness while playing for Oregon is within the rules. Paying a prospective U of Oregon player…..while still in HS……to sign with the school or even just to VISIT the school……is not NIL. It’s pay to play. It’s blatant cheating. It happens at several schools…notoriously. Texas A&M, Miami…..and Oregon. This is no secret. Why isn’t Oregons best sports journalist writing or talking about this? Because his readers are comprised of a heavy percentage of rabid Oregon fans. They don’t want to know. And the schools lone majority benefactor……fully complicit…..is not to be crossed by Canzano or any other sportswriter when it comes to this topic. OR……..did you thing Oregon was suddenly signing massive HS stars from Texas and California at previously unseen rates- simply because Oregon was winning more games and also for their notoriously well regarded academic diploma, excellent year round weather, and reputation for entertainment and cultural diversity in the town of Eugene?? Justin Wilcox, a legacy Oregon former player, passed on an Oregon HC offer because he was NOT comfortable with these illegal recruiting practices he was expected to use, leading to Oregon hiring Dan Lanning and a staff like the notoriously dirty Tosh Lupoi, to lean fully into these practices. Where is the award winning journalism done to look into all of this? You’ll never find it locally. Understandably…..John needs to keep his subscription base and access to his most in demand topic.
You might have a point. I have noticed how Oregon, which was a 30ish or 40ish recruiting team 10=15 years ago and earlier, while OSU in the same locale and a larger school was running 50ish-60ish, all of a sudden jumped to Top 10 in recruiting. How does that happen? Oregon already had the Nike aura 10 years ago and earlier, back to 1985 or so. So that was no step change. Why did Oregon jump over 20 or more of the top football programs in the country in a 5-10 year period? This would explain all of that. They paid for it. I always knew that PK was trying to buy a championship, but this explains how.
Chip Kelly had multiple teams that were more successful than either Lanning coached Oregon team. Mario cristobal as well. So it’s not “winning big” Also the facilities and uniform combinations and any other reason given have been factors for years. Still doesn’t explain a massive sudden uptick. Lanning is just a great recruiter? I don’t doubt he’s persuasive and relentless. But those qualities didn’t get last minute flips from guys like Conerly and Matayo U. Cash did. Pay for play. This isn’t even a secret. Oregon is known and talked about for this in CFB. And for half the investigative reporting effort Canzano or Wilner have put into multiple other topics it wouldn’t be hard to uncover this but that will never happen. If you are Phil Knight you don’t spend hundreds of millions of dollars desperately trying to win your alma mater a title but stop short of paying the actual key players a relatively small percentage of that. Of course they do. And to your point Brian- of course nothing else make sense to explain it. And listen: Im stating it, I’m not even judging it. It’s CFB today and the SEC has done it for decades, now they just have NIL as a front. I just think it’s hilarious that Lanning has brown bag money to buy players and STILL can’t be the best team in the PNW much less west coast. Must be maddening to watch UW operate clean and come out on top.
And UW doesn't do the same? Evidence of how "clean" they are is what? If the era of NIL is here, what makes you so sure Washington isn't dong the same--higher or lower profile?
Brian, according to Rivals, UO was ranked 13th in 09 and according to 247, UO was ranked 12th in 2010, 12th in 2011, 14th in 2012 and 19th in 2013, your so called 10-15 year window when you said they were a 30th or 40thish recruiting team.
Time flies. Look at 2001 and 2002. This buying of success has been underway a long time. The quantum leap in success was not the Nike affiliation. Just like to know if PK's purchases are legal or illegal
You said 10 or 15 years ago, you were wrong and now you are changing the goal posts, Brian.
From memory. Yes, when I look at 247 it was early 2000s when the Ducks were in the 30s. So what? It doesn't change the thesis. It only means that PK has cheated a lot longer than I thought. Maybe you think there is some statute of limitations for the beginning of cheating? SMU got the death sentence for buying players. Many teams, including USC, have been penalized. If college football is going to be sustainable as COLLEGE football and not the NFL, then the hammer has to come down on these programs that try and buy success
Should Oregon be on this list? https://athlonsports.com/college-football/15-unethical-college-football-programs
The so-called thesis, Brian, is you smear UO nonstop.
From 2004 to 2008 UO had 3 recruiting classes ranked 12, 11th and 19th.
l don't smear anyone. I raise the issue that the NCAA has stopped regulating college sports and as SCfotheWin suggests, it has become the Wild West. Phil Knight is notorious for a no-holds barred approach to competition. Read his book, Shoe Dog. He takes great pride in that. So why do you think he doesn't take the same approach at Oregon? He owns the athletic department, that is clear. He probably owns the admin as well for all the money he has given the university (that is the point). And I am not saying Oregon and PK are alone in dishonesty. It is rampant in the FBS and in all of society. This is the same character flaw in America that is causing an epidemic of crime in the cities that is never prosecuted.
The NCAA suffers from the same sickness. I just say to enjoy it while you can. It is not sustainable. It will all go down in flames..
I'm done talking to you Brian. You accuse people, good people, of dishonesty and cheating with no basis.
So you choose 2004 to question me when I said "look at 2001" when it was 32nd. So there is the step change. If I were the NCAA I would start there and look for witnesses to interrogate.
You speak truth here, inconvenient for Nike U and it’s fans, but truth nonetheless.
Your cred is shot. You were so wrong about USC this year that your opinions on anything else are suspect. You are a know it all blowhard.