Maybe we should consider what may be becoming the Oregon curse. When you leave Oregon, you do not better yourself. Brooks to Kentucky, pffft. Chip to NFL, pffft. Taggart to Florida State, pffft. Mario to Miami, pffft (so far). Is there a pattern here?
Auburn is a great place if you are looking for one last big football score. They will give you $80 million to coach, lose, and leave in 3 years. It's not a good place if you are looking to win football games. I get the feeling that Lanning is still interested in winning football games.
It's crazy how ESPN's big media dollars are simply paying most of the SEC to hire and fire losing coaches every few years. And this sets the pay scale for coaches and offsets all that big money gain for the mediocre teams. The Big10 will now have the money to do the same thing.
Our universities and this sport would be in a such a better place if someone could go back in time 70 years and establish a modest salary cap on NCAA football teams.
Nobody cares about the well being of college football any more. If they did a broad SPENDING cap would have been placed 30 years ago. No irony that the only element of college athletics that is cost controlled is that which is spent on athletes. The rest is unlimited and uncontrolled:
And its well documented that they PAID TO PLAY with Cam Newton! And they had to win on a BS call anyways...OVER Oregon. Both have been to the game 2x in the modern era. Mid-level SEC teams are places to go and DIE as a HC!
Sully. How about the Pac-12 and the B1G just say 'NO' to SEC Commissioner Roy Kramer and his 1 true champion BCS idea in 1983. Instead, 'We are happy playing for a Rose Bowl berth.'
The world did not end when CFB finished with co-champions. The game would not have been completely monetized and guys who grew up in the Pac-10/12 footprint wouldn't be heading east to play ball. Bowl games rewarded excellence and not mediocrity.
UGA's 2 top TEs; one from Napa, CA and one from Las Vegas. Stud UGA CB Ringo is from Washington state. Bryce Young and JT Stroud from LA.
ESPN and FOX would not own CFB and games would be played in the sunshine.
well said...one last thought...Roy Kramer as corrupt as he was, was ahead of the game...he used the idea of the BCS to his own (SEC's own) advantage. 1) They've paid media members, and gamed the system to give the SEC an advantage for 3 decades. 2) They went to only 8 conference games...that automatically gives the entire conference a huge polling advantage because of their refusal to travel for Non conf. games, and their penchant for playing little directional Non D1 or FCS teams and paying them handsomely to travel to SEC schools and allow those SEC schools to roll up huge scores on them, all for a large payday in order to survive another year. only playing 8 conf games guarantee's 4 wins out of the gate...2 more and they go bowling. How convenient. 3) when ALL schools in the conference start out 4-0...well do the math...4) The paid off media members vote those 4-0 records accordingly...I have not heard one single SEC footprint media member call out the SEC for their refusing to travel outside the Mason Dixon line, or for scheduling 4 patsies. Yet they hold all other conferences accountable for playing cupcakes in their rankings. If the SEC had to actually travel...well that tough reputation would not be so...Look at Alabama...they had to go travel to LSU=Loss, Tennessee=Loss, Ol miss to LSU thrashed & loss, That's why they want 4 cupcakes and 8 home games every year. They have figured out how to game the system and their paid cronies in the media refuse to say a word about it.
Kramer was the 1st to go to divisions and a conference champ game but Jim Delany beat him to forming a conference network that everyone predicted would fail.
Thank you, John!! I think this story epitomizes the best reason why we all love this new venture of yours. In the past, we would have to wade through days of speculation, here-say and bold-faced lies from various media sources--most of them unreliable! Now, we can rely on you to send us an almost immediate email with rock solid facts from a reliable source....in this case, the coach himself!!!
We appreciate your enthusiasm toward getting to the truth!!!
Mario only got beat by 40 Saturday vs. Florida State. So glad he and slick Willy got deported back to Florida where they belong. Lanning will not go anywhere else soon. Hope the offensive play-caller stays in Eugene. Is Husky week, and I cannot wait to see UW get ambushed. In the bad old days, whenever Don James came to Eugene, the game was over before it started, although I did see Dawgs lose in late 80s twice in Eugene. Times have changed, thank God, and the purple Montlake boys no longer scare me at all. Winning against them for 13 years in a row, was just so special! As a life-long huge Duck, to me beating Washington means more than beating the baby Beavs from Corvallis.! GO DUCKS
Oregon has certainly won VERY frequently vs UW but....not sure if you were sick the day you should have learned stats:
UW has won two of the last five meetings with the dux. I will trust you I guess that your guys have won 13 in a row but I cant get that to work. Wait!Mmaybe because Oregon lost those two by 35 and 49 points the games don't count, ya know like the Georgia game this season.
I think you need to be more specific in your reporting:
-You state Lanning is not interested in leaving Oregon. Sounds correct but I think you really should add "right now" to the end of that statement. Oregon, like many programs has seen every decent coach move on within a few years of success. The curse of young coaches
-ou also stated " I would give you sourced" information.... I guess that makes sense but why would you EVER provide info not sourced? So you commit to not make stuff up?
Sorry for my cynicism but some of this seems a little obvious
I trust your reporting, and I hope your sources are true. Love the new atmosphere that Lanning has brought to the coaching and the players they are attracting. And I really hope coach D sticks around awhile, he is the real deal! His innovation is so worth the anticipation and watching on Saturday. Thanks again for your sourced writing John. Really enjoy reading everyday.
One of the impacts of the 12 team playoff may be to cool these coaching shifts. Not saying the dollars don’t matter because they do but the bar to entry for CFP will be dramatically lowered.
Auburn has 3 undefeated seasons since 1993, been to 2 national title games in the past 12 years and won the national championship in 2010, albeit over a PAC12 upstart.
AU has 2 claimed national championships and 5 more awarded by the NCAA.
Auburn is #12 in all time NCAA football wins.
Auburn has Georgia, Alabama and LSU on their schedule EVERY season, while being in the top 5 every season in strength of schedule.
Auburn just built a new $100 million Football only facility, which is second to none.
Tim Cook, CEO of Apple and Jimmy Rane, owner and CEO of YellaWood are both alumnus and major contributors to the athletic department, along with a billion dollar endowment and an 8 figure NIL war chest.
If Auburn REALLY wants Panning, they will get him.
The man knows where championships are won and it's damn sure not on the left coast in a wannabe football conference.
Dan needs to settle in at Oregon, raise his family there and build on his resume. Auburn is a cess pool, the fans and school will not support anything other than a coach that can create miracles and will continue to throw money at coaches until the cows come home. Oregon won with Mario but I think it's the schools system more than his coaching. You have a billionaire that will move mountains to win at all cost. Mario is just an average to below average coach, Miami screwed up in the hire.
I believe you that Lanning is staying, it is simply too soon for anyone with a sense of commitment to consider leaving. However, I really doubt that if he WAS interested in leaving, that he or his agent would risk leaking it to someone in the media.
Maybe we should consider what may be becoming the Oregon curse. When you leave Oregon, you do not better yourself. Brooks to Kentucky, pffft. Chip to NFL, pffft. Taggart to Florida State, pffft. Mario to Miami, pffft (so far). Is there a pattern here?
Probably is a pattern but I for one am so very happy that Mario went MIA.
you ingore the one NON pffft element there: MONEY. dont be naive thinking coaches love Oregon or any other program fi big bucks come calling.
Auburn is a great place if you are looking for one last big football score. They will give you $80 million to coach, lose, and leave in 3 years. It's not a good place if you are looking to win football games. I get the feeling that Lanning is still interested in winning football games.
It's crazy how ESPN's big media dollars are simply paying most of the SEC to hire and fire losing coaches every few years. And this sets the pay scale for coaches and offsets all that big money gain for the mediocre teams. The Big10 will now have the money to do the same thing.
Our universities and this sport would be in a such a better place if someone could go back in time 70 years and establish a modest salary cap on NCAA football teams.
Nobody cares about the well being of college football any more. If they did a broad SPENDING cap would have been placed 30 years ago. No irony that the only element of college athletics that is cost controlled is that which is spent on athletes. The rest is unlimited and uncontrolled:
-Coaches salaries
-Other staff spending ($800,000 strength coaches, staff analyzing recruiting, game planning, unlimited promotion)
-Facilities
-almost all recruiting resources
-COMPLETELY uncontrolled NIL resulting in hundreds (more?) making more money annually than NFL practice squad players.
The wealthy programs have zero interest in the health and well being broadly of college football.
Yeah cause how many NC's has UA won compared to UO? Mock there model all you want but it's worked better thannthr UO so far.
One championship in modern college football because of a transcendent college QB...not strength of the program. Fell off again right after.
And its well documented that they PAID TO PLAY with Cam Newton! And they had to win on a BS call anyways...OVER Oregon. Both have been to the game 2x in the modern era. Mid-level SEC teams are places to go and DIE as a HC!
Sully. How about the Pac-12 and the B1G just say 'NO' to SEC Commissioner Roy Kramer and his 1 true champion BCS idea in 1983. Instead, 'We are happy playing for a Rose Bowl berth.'
The world did not end when CFB finished with co-champions. The game would not have been completely monetized and guys who grew up in the Pac-10/12 footprint wouldn't be heading east to play ball. Bowl games rewarded excellence and not mediocrity.
UGA's 2 top TEs; one from Napa, CA and one from Las Vegas. Stud UGA CB Ringo is from Washington state. Bryce Young and JT Stroud from LA.
ESPN and FOX would not own CFB and games would be played in the sunshine.
$9M+ to coach CFB? Capitalism run amok.
OK, I'll stop waving my cane.
well said...one last thought...Roy Kramer as corrupt as he was, was ahead of the game...he used the idea of the BCS to his own (SEC's own) advantage. 1) They've paid media members, and gamed the system to give the SEC an advantage for 3 decades. 2) They went to only 8 conference games...that automatically gives the entire conference a huge polling advantage because of their refusal to travel for Non conf. games, and their penchant for playing little directional Non D1 or FCS teams and paying them handsomely to travel to SEC schools and allow those SEC schools to roll up huge scores on them, all for a large payday in order to survive another year. only playing 8 conf games guarantee's 4 wins out of the gate...2 more and they go bowling. How convenient. 3) when ALL schools in the conference start out 4-0...well do the math...4) The paid off media members vote those 4-0 records accordingly...I have not heard one single SEC footprint media member call out the SEC for their refusing to travel outside the Mason Dixon line, or for scheduling 4 patsies. Yet they hold all other conferences accountable for playing cupcakes in their rankings. If the SEC had to actually travel...well that tough reputation would not be so...Look at Alabama...they had to go travel to LSU=Loss, Tennessee=Loss, Ol miss to LSU thrashed & loss, That's why they want 4 cupcakes and 8 home games every year. They have figured out how to game the system and their paid cronies in the media refuse to say a word about it.
AMEN!
Kramer was the 1st to go to divisions and a conference champ game but Jim Delany beat him to forming a conference network that everyone predicted would fail.
Thank you, John!! I think this story epitomizes the best reason why we all love this new venture of yours. In the past, we would have to wade through days of speculation, here-say and bold-faced lies from various media sources--most of them unreliable! Now, we can rely on you to send us an almost immediate email with rock solid facts from a reliable source....in this case, the coach himself!!!
We appreciate your enthusiasm toward getting to the truth!!!
I guess I'm cynical. I never believe a major college head football coach from another part of the country who claims he is putting down roots here.
Agree.
Mario only got beat by 40 Saturday vs. Florida State. So glad he and slick Willy got deported back to Florida where they belong. Lanning will not go anywhere else soon. Hope the offensive play-caller stays in Eugene. Is Husky week, and I cannot wait to see UW get ambushed. In the bad old days, whenever Don James came to Eugene, the game was over before it started, although I did see Dawgs lose in late 80s twice in Eugene. Times have changed, thank God, and the purple Montlake boys no longer scare me at all. Winning against them for 13 years in a row, was just so special! As a life-long huge Duck, to me beating Washington means more than beating the baby Beavs from Corvallis.! GO DUCKS
Oregon has certainly won VERY frequently vs UW but....not sure if you were sick the day you should have learned stats:
UW has won two of the last five meetings with the dux. I will trust you I guess that your guys have won 13 in a row but I cant get that to work. Wait!Mmaybe because Oregon lost those two by 35 and 49 points the games don't count, ya know like the Georgia game this season.
Hopefully he sticks it out a few years. It’s Jonathan smith I am more worried about.
J. Smith - kick the FGs! Analytics on the road in bad weather is fool's gold.
I think you need to be more specific in your reporting:
-You state Lanning is not interested in leaving Oregon. Sounds correct but I think you really should add "right now" to the end of that statement. Oregon, like many programs has seen every decent coach move on within a few years of success. The curse of young coaches
-ou also stated " I would give you sourced" information.... I guess that makes sense but why would you EVER provide info not sourced? So you commit to not make stuff up?
Sorry for my cynicism but some of this seems a little obvious
I trust your reporting, and I hope your sources are true. Love the new atmosphere that Lanning has brought to the coaching and the players they are attracting. And I really hope coach D sticks around awhile, he is the real deal! His innovation is so worth the anticipation and watching on Saturday. Thanks again for your sourced writing John. Really enjoy reading everyday.
One of the impacts of the 12 team playoff may be to cool these coaching shifts. Not saying the dollars don’t matter because they do but the bar to entry for CFP will be dramatically lowered.
Auburn has 3 undefeated seasons since 1993, been to 2 national title games in the past 12 years and won the national championship in 2010, albeit over a PAC12 upstart.
AU has 2 claimed national championships and 5 more awarded by the NCAA.
Auburn is #12 in all time NCAA football wins.
Auburn has Georgia, Alabama and LSU on their schedule EVERY season, while being in the top 5 every season in strength of schedule.
Auburn just built a new $100 million Football only facility, which is second to none.
Tim Cook, CEO of Apple and Jimmy Rane, owner and CEO of YellaWood are both alumnus and major contributors to the athletic department, along with a billion dollar endowment and an 8 figure NIL war chest.
If Auburn REALLY wants Panning, they will get him.
The man knows where championships are won and it's damn sure not on the left coast in a wannabe football conference.
You Ducks are hilarious.
Be careful....William Jewell is embarking on its biggest building project ever!!!
Dan needs to settle in at Oregon, raise his family there and build on his resume. Auburn is a cess pool, the fans and school will not support anything other than a coach that can create miracles and will continue to throw money at coaches until the cows come home. Oregon won with Mario but I think it's the schools system more than his coaching. You have a billionaire that will move mountains to win at all cost. Mario is just an average to below average coach, Miami screwed up in the hire.
glad to read Lanning is not planning on leaving Oregon. He is a great guy.
I believe you that Lanning is staying, it is simply too soon for anyone with a sense of commitment to consider leaving. However, I really doubt that if he WAS interested in leaving, that he or his agent would risk leaking it to someone in the media.
Thanks for the update.
What quality coach would want any part of that dysfunctional mess? Because of his baggage I think the job goes to Hugh Freeze?
Someone said 'Oregon does more for coaches than coaches do for Oregon'.
I'm starting to believe that. First time HC's come in to an already established culture
of talent and resources that's not found at many schools. They have immediate
results and think they can take that success to another progrum... Not so much.
agree, like Gonzaga hoops coaches