Why would anyone want to invest in a sports team that would be subjected to, riots, looting, no punishment for people that would disrupt the game. Just picture it, In centerfield there are 200 homeless people refusing to move and the city wont help. OH the parking areas are subject to nightly vandalism and the police arenot allowed to arrest the "peaceful" protesters. Shall I go on? Nobody in their right mind with a lot of money will waste it in Portland. The city council would probably not allow the playing of the national anthem. It might offend some homeless criminal.
Not to be "Debbie Downer" but the current leadership and citizenry has allowed the once energetic and beautiful city of Portland to become the Cleveland of the West. Not much evidence for MLB success in this environment.
To be clear, if a stadium isn’t in PDX proper and semi-close to downtown (the 2020-21 PDX isn’t exactly the baseline for scenery), it’s not gonna have an entertainment district. I live in Hillsboro. Unless you plopped it downtown (LOL), there’s no area that you can walk to nearby. Same with Beaverton, Tigard, Oregon City (though maybe a riverside stadium would be cool), etc. So, if it’s stadium + nearby amenities (a la Providence Park), it needs to be in PDX, period.
For MLB to work in Portland it needs a stadium near the city core and along the light rail lines. A perfect location for a stadium would be right on top of I-84 in the Rose Quarter/Lloyd District (near the new bike bridge being built). That location offers transit access, existing parking options, and is centrally located in the metro area. Could also work with government agencies to aquire the land at no cost in exchange for building freeway covers to bridge neighborhood north & south of the Banfield.
They've been touting their stadium site for four years. It doesn't exist. It's never existed. If they had a stadium or someone with enough money or political willpower to build one, there would already be plans in place and momentum from the MLB itself, not pleas to an aloof franchise looking for a sweetheart deal at home.
This group pretty clearly doesn't have real money behind its cause. They don't have a real stadium. They don't have a city or state willing to pitch in money during an election year to build them that stadium. They don't have a concrete plan on how to pry a team away from another city. They don't have a plan on how to wrest the Portland TV rights from Seattle or even a local RSN to pay for those rights.
They have a good marketing team, a sharp ball cap and a city desperate for attention. Everything else is a facade.
Based upon the considerable decline in major league baseball attendance and salaries that do not reflect attendance, why would Portland want a baseball franchise? Although much more difficult to obtain, the NFL makes much more sense. As was noted in the NYT recently, it is far from certain major league baseball can even survive at the current numbers. A considerable reduction in players' salaries and ticket prices might make a difference. But with the glut of sports and the declining interest in bb, even TV viewership is anemic. Dennis Johnston
I would work for a AAA team, like we had for about a century. Build a nice park and show that the town can support a professional baseball team above A level. I know it is a gradualist approach, but we have lost so much interest and competitiveness with our poor political leadership, that we need to rebuild it. We need to appear more pro-business and clean up our problems in the inner city with better policing and tough love on the homeless issue. Until that competence is returned, no one will be interested in investing in major sports franchises.
As one of very few who have lived for a number of years in the Las Vegas area and in the Portland area - there are multiple site in Las Vegas that the As have looked at. One is where the Tropicana Hotel and the area adjacent to it immediately abutting Harry Reid International. The big challenge is that it would need to be a covered stadium and none of the covered stadiums have proven to be successful - Seattle's park with a moveable roof has been the most successful. And there are lots of deep pockets who will put up funding there. Portland is a more desirable climate and baseball would not be competing with other entertainment venues as would be the case in Las Vegas. But Portland does not seem to have the kind of very deep pockets who would pony up for a baseball team (assuming Phil Knight has little interest in bankrolling a baseball franchise). I do think with the right ownership and location a baseball franchise could do well but do not see those two necessary elements coming together.
And if the Blazers do go on the auction block I see that attracting the kinds of investors who might otherwise consider investing in a baseball franchise in Portland. I would love to be wrong about the chances of getting MLB in Portland.
1) I am no fan of MLB. That players strike of 1994-5 sent this young kid down the path of ignoring baseball and never looking back, despite growing up in a town with a "short season" single A team and frequent visits with my parents.
2) "Entertainment districts" don't work - Rose Quarter never really worked out despite everything and Salt Lake City (comparable media / sponsor / in-stadium box buyers market to Portland, imho) wanted one near Franklin Quest Field (now Smith's Ballpark) to revitalize what was considered a blighted neighborhood south of downtown. It didn't happen and decades later there's still several large surface parking lots in its immediate area.
"Corradini has said a new stadium and a high-caliber professional baseball team are essential for economic development." - Deseret News, July 19, 1993
Sorry it ain’t happening, when my boy was playing ball with Masson Guerra the A’s scout was sniffing around. I asked him if he thought the A’s would ever move to Portland. He laughed and said I wouldn’t bet on it.
The A's sold off all of their marketable players. If they were in Portland and did that, I doubt many Portlanders would come out to see the team either. That is a fan killer every time.
I'm a baseball guy. Have been all my life. I played, in one form or another, for well over forty years. I love the game. But I don't think Portland is a baseball town and don't think the fans will support a MLB team long term. I would love to be wrong, but I don't think I am.
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Do you know what radio station the Seattle Mariners are broadcasted? Don’t feel bad, I can’t find one either. And over the last five years it has enormously gotten more difficult. I have notified the Mariners per email, the local radio station by phone that would advertise the team games as well as ESPN which did absolutely nothing. ESPN has definitely proven to me that they are as incompetent as I have heard and they were supposedly broadcasting the games.
If nobody wants to broadcast the Mariners games on radio then how much support has there been?
Why would anyone want to invest in a sports team that would be subjected to, riots, looting, no punishment for people that would disrupt the game. Just picture it, In centerfield there are 200 homeless people refusing to move and the city wont help. OH the parking areas are subject to nightly vandalism and the police arenot allowed to arrest the "peaceful" protesters. Shall I go on? Nobody in their right mind with a lot of money will waste it in Portland. The city council would probably not allow the playing of the national anthem. It might offend some homeless criminal.
There is no way any professional team would come to a liberal city and liberal state that is anti-business.....
Not to be "Debbie Downer" but the current leadership and citizenry has allowed the once energetic and beautiful city of Portland to become the Cleveland of the West. Not much evidence for MLB success in this environment.
To be clear, if a stadium isn’t in PDX proper and semi-close to downtown (the 2020-21 PDX isn’t exactly the baseline for scenery), it’s not gonna have an entertainment district. I live in Hillsboro. Unless you plopped it downtown (LOL), there’s no area that you can walk to nearby. Same with Beaverton, Tigard, Oregon City (though maybe a riverside stadium would be cool), etc. So, if it’s stadium + nearby amenities (a la Providence Park), it needs to be in PDX, period.
For MLB to work in Portland it needs a stadium near the city core and along the light rail lines. A perfect location for a stadium would be right on top of I-84 in the Rose Quarter/Lloyd District (near the new bike bridge being built). That location offers transit access, existing parking options, and is centrally located in the metro area. Could also work with government agencies to aquire the land at no cost in exchange for building freeway covers to bridge neighborhood north & south of the Banfield.
They've been touting their stadium site for four years. It doesn't exist. It's never existed. If they had a stadium or someone with enough money or political willpower to build one, there would already be plans in place and momentum from the MLB itself, not pleas to an aloof franchise looking for a sweetheart deal at home.
This group pretty clearly doesn't have real money behind its cause. They don't have a real stadium. They don't have a city or state willing to pitch in money during an election year to build them that stadium. They don't have a concrete plan on how to pry a team away from another city. They don't have a plan on how to wrest the Portland TV rights from Seattle or even a local RSN to pay for those rights.
They have a good marketing team, a sharp ball cap and a city desperate for attention. Everything else is a facade.
There is no way any professional team would come to a liberal city and liberal state that is anti-business.....
Based upon the considerable decline in major league baseball attendance and salaries that do not reflect attendance, why would Portland want a baseball franchise? Although much more difficult to obtain, the NFL makes much more sense. As was noted in the NYT recently, it is far from certain major league baseball can even survive at the current numbers. A considerable reduction in players' salaries and ticket prices might make a difference. But with the glut of sports and the declining interest in bb, even TV viewership is anemic. Dennis Johnston
I would work for a AAA team, like we had for about a century. Build a nice park and show that the town can support a professional baseball team above A level. I know it is a gradualist approach, but we have lost so much interest and competitiveness with our poor political leadership, that we need to rebuild it. We need to appear more pro-business and clean up our problems in the inner city with better policing and tough love on the homeless issue. Until that competence is returned, no one will be interested in investing in major sports franchises.
As one of very few who have lived for a number of years in the Las Vegas area and in the Portland area - there are multiple site in Las Vegas that the As have looked at. One is where the Tropicana Hotel and the area adjacent to it immediately abutting Harry Reid International. The big challenge is that it would need to be a covered stadium and none of the covered stadiums have proven to be successful - Seattle's park with a moveable roof has been the most successful. And there are lots of deep pockets who will put up funding there. Portland is a more desirable climate and baseball would not be competing with other entertainment venues as would be the case in Las Vegas. But Portland does not seem to have the kind of very deep pockets who would pony up for a baseball team (assuming Phil Knight has little interest in bankrolling a baseball franchise). I do think with the right ownership and location a baseball franchise could do well but do not see those two necessary elements coming together.
And if the Blazers do go on the auction block I see that attracting the kinds of investors who might otherwise consider investing in a baseball franchise in Portland. I would love to be wrong about the chances of getting MLB in Portland.
1) I am no fan of MLB. That players strike of 1994-5 sent this young kid down the path of ignoring baseball and never looking back, despite growing up in a town with a "short season" single A team and frequent visits with my parents.
2) "Entertainment districts" don't work - Rose Quarter never really worked out despite everything and Salt Lake City (comparable media / sponsor / in-stadium box buyers market to Portland, imho) wanted one near Franklin Quest Field (now Smith's Ballpark) to revitalize what was considered a blighted neighborhood south of downtown. It didn't happen and decades later there's still several large surface parking lots in its immediate area.
"Corradini has said a new stadium and a high-caliber professional baseball team are essential for economic development." - Deseret News, July 19, 1993
Sorry it ain’t happening, when my boy was playing ball with Masson Guerra the A’s scout was sniffing around. I asked him if he thought the A’s would ever move to Portland. He laughed and said I wouldn’t bet on it.
The A's sold off all of their marketable players. If they were in Portland and did that, I doubt many Portlanders would come out to see the team either. That is a fan killer every time.
I'm a baseball guy. Have been all my life. I played, in one form or another, for well over forty years. I love the game. But I don't think Portland is a baseball town and don't think the fans will support a MLB team long term. I would love to be wrong, but I don't think I am.
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Do you know what radio station the Seattle Mariners are broadcasted? Don’t feel bad, I can’t find one either. And over the last five years it has enormously gotten more difficult. I have notified the Mariners per email, the local radio station by phone that would advertise the team games as well as ESPN which did absolutely nothing. ESPN has definitely proven to me that they are as incompetent as I have heard and they were supposedly broadcasting the games.
If nobody wants to broadcast the Mariners games on radio then how much support has there been?