Beavs were without starting center and wall of a man Van Wells (Do we know why?) and starting right tackle. We aren't deep in the Oline. So judging McCoy or our RBs for this game is not fair. (remember just the other two weeks when UO couldn't defend Gabriel?)
September “Apple Cup” soooooo much fun…pregame at CougFan breakfast tailgate and meeting many great Cougs followed by Marco Polo B&G pregame and more Cougs, to Lumen with many more (but not enough) Cougs, witnessing a hell of a Coug win with puppies dismayed, post Game on Lumen field with soo many crazy Cougs in the Butch “mosh pit”, walking off Lumen through tunnel with all yelling….Goooo…..Cougs, post game celebratory shot with all Coug brothers and sisters, to rewatching the game at family bbq to finally rolling into bed, throat hashed and voice gone. Woke up this morning and asked my wife….Can we do that again?:)
I've been around the CW (the game, not the tv channel) for nearly 60 years, and yesterday felt very much like the rivalry, at least as long as it was close. Several Ducks I interacted with seemed to think so too. The intensity ebbs when the competitiveness does, and that's also been the case with many lopsided editions in the past.
The Apple Cup was more of a rivalry because it was a close contest down to the wire. Reverse the scores and the Civil War would have been massively intense, and the Apple Cup would have turned into applesauce.
I agree the 1st half was truly a rivalry. The Beav fans knew the Ducks were better but they were hanging in there. Even when the Ducks only got a FG in the opening of the 2nd Half there was still hope. I wore Beaver gear in my Club seat while my son & GF were in Duck seats in Duck colors up near the UO band. It wasn't much different than previous Civil Wars and the intensity only got crazy if the game was close.
September or November it's still ,a Civil Rivalry unless its not clear who is going to win and then it feels like a War. We will see that again no matter when it is played.
Is not the stadium new this year? Was the change in atmosphere partially due to the new stadium size and configuration? Never been to Reesers before or after. Just curious.
Not the stadium. The problem was the bombing of a 108-year-old conference for reasons of status. And that the comparison of resources was like a private school in Scio having to play Jesuit.
Go Cougs! Lumen field electric and theCougs controlled the entire football game. Rushing the field was blast! Always great when all the pseudo Hushy fans slink out of the stadium after an Apple Cup loss!
As a die hard Coug, I must admit that I was not very “happy” during the game (which I watched on Peacock). More like stressed out and terrified!! I was happy after the game, but I actually felt more drained and relieved!! During the 4th quarter I told my wife that I wished I could just time travel to the end of the game and see the final score, without having to actually live through it! 😨😨
I think they "agreed" to a 5-game continuation. So, the "neutral site" at Lumen was the compromise instead of 3-2. There were some shared revenue projections on the neutral site game. Not sure how that worked out since attendance was about 80 percent of capacity.
Because the UW conference game home/road split went from being 5 home and 4 road in even years to being 5 home and 4 road in odd years, UW needs the apple cup to be in husky stadium in even years. But because it was in husky stadium last season WSU didn’t want to play 2 straight apple cup road games so a compromise was reached and they had the neutral site game this year to satisfy the needs of both schools
This problem was not created in the Civil War and thus they were able to keep it on the same home/road schedule as it was when both team were in the Pac
I’ve seen a lot of Civil Wars in person over the years, but this was my first in Corvallis since 1998. I swore that I would never return to Parker (now Reser) Stadium. Beaver fans were just too much. Even back then. After the second quarter yesterday however, the Duck fans were all I heard. While I hope the series continues, and finds a way to be competitive, I’ll enjoy this into the bye week. It’s a great day to be a Duck.
You were bold to go in 1998. It was pouring down rain that year (my last at OSU). And the Beavers put up an unexpectedly good fight and won.
I'm good if the series takes a break until after there are rules around pay for play that create some equality between schools. An uncompetitive Civil War may be desirable for Duck fans, but I don't think it is good for the State in general. Phil has done a good job turning Oregon into a semi-professipnal team (wonder why they don't publish the payroll?). It was obvious yesterday that JS left the Beavers in a massive rebuilding mode when he abandoned the team for the supposedly greener grass of Michigan State (he may have as long a year as the Beavers do).
And with why they can’t they can’t succeed with the “big boys”. They blame Oregon for not having a “rich benefactor”. They’ve had 30 years (and beyond) to figure it out, along with the Ducks. The excuses are growing tired.
As we exited the stadium, we walked past the Duck buses, including 10 or 12 Oregon State Police motorcycles, all parked in a neat formation.
I was struck to see that on each and every motorcycle, a motorcycle helmet in Oregon’s colors was attached. I thought to myself, aren’t these the police paid by ALL of the taxpayers of the State of Oregon, therefore, shouldn’t their helmets be standard issue, ie, neutral? As I walked past, a trooper smiled at me. I just said that I didn’t like the helmets. He said nothing, but his smile went away.
For crying out loud, did PK buy the state patrol too?
The Ducks played great, clearly the better team, but can’t the cops stay in the neutral lane?
Smith joins Dantonio in 2007, Bobby Williams in 2000, George Gauthier in 1918 and Frank Sommers in 1916 as the only first year coaches to start with 3 wins.
Um. Let's be honest. One of those three is close to a quality win (if you count Maryland as quality, which is debatable). If Oregon State had played Prairie View instead of Oregon yesterday, then Trent would be on that list. But, that wouldn't make him a great coach or his team a remotely good team.
Or… if enough regular fans get together and decide to donate or contribute to their NIL funds, they can build up the money. I’ve been donating to the Duck Athletic Fund for 25 years (for example) and I’m just a small duckling. It’s not just Phil… there’s enough of us out there contributing. It’s been that way for years. Stop waiting for a savior. Do it NOW.
Todd, you and I both know (as actual friends) that your individual donation isn't changing the landscape). Take away PK and Oregon doesn't get an invite to the Big 10 or the ability to pay a reported $23 million in NIL money.
Of course they talk with him. He just donated $50 million for the supercomputer building under construction. He is more interested in academics than athletics.
After the dedication ceremony to start construction, he ordered a Woodstock's pizza to go. He and his wife were huge fans of Woodstock's as undergrads.
The Huangs apparently (because nobody knows for sure) haven't shown interest in providing substantial support for the OSU athletic program. But that $50 million contribution to the new tech center shows that they cares about the school.
Maybe somebody should sit down with Jen-Hsun and his wife (they're both OSU grads) and explain how putting OSU's major sports programs can have a positive impact on recruitment of students into technology programs. Not all of those interested in computer technology majors are nerds with little use for athletics. There are lots of smart young people out there for whom high profile, winning sports teams is part of their criteria when deciding which school to attend.
Phil Knight's investment in UO has no doubt paid off in ways that extend far beyond success in its major sports. It has no doubt led to huge amounts of grant money being received for other programs, including fields related to science and technology. It probably also has some positive impact on recruiting of professors -- some of whom care about a university's visibility and overall academic reputation.
How does NIL work at the service academies? I’m retired AF and have no idea. Plus, how are they dealing with the transfer portal? Seems this would operate much differently for the service academies and likely has an impact on recruiting? discuss.
I'm not an expert but I seem to recall high school students needing a written reference from a US Senator to be considered for admission to AFA, West Point and Anappolis.
That is the primary was to get into an academy. There are some others (children of a Medal of Honor recipient are an automatic for example). I believe they have some additional positions to be given on merit (being good at football is probably a merit?). I would guess that NIL is not allowed, but that is a VERY interesting question.
If CJS would have stayed, I think the Beavers could have beaten the Ducks yesterday, but when Smith pulled the plug, it forced a complete reset of the Beaver team on both sides of the ball + the coaching staff. Given that was only 10 months ago, it was a bridge too far. We saw the Beavers hang in the first half, but missing 2 starting offensive linemen, their best WR and starting DB, the depth wasn't there and they wore down. Much like the job Smith faced in 2018, it's gonna take Trent Bray a few years to rebuild the Beaver depth chart. Despite the huge financial disadvantage with Oregon, OSU will figure out a way to be competitive.
I was trying to say the same thing on another article. I got defeated poor me beaver response. I’m a duck alumni. I’m also a native Oregonian. I was glad my team finally played to expectation most of yesterday, but you beat us in 2022 with the same resources. Money helps, but dues nit replace heart, grit and coaching. We duck fans do know what it feels like to be deserted by a coach we believed in. I hope you win out and rebuild and we return to a grind out match…September or November spoiler. Not all duck fans are bandwagon non-alumni who know it actually rains in autzen.
You honestly believe that resources are the same now for the Beavers as in 2022? Not just a loss of the head coach, but most of his staff, most of the key players, and most of the conference.
As circumstances stand, the Civil War will never return to a fair fight. Best to let it go entirely. Any Duck wins now are hollow and will continue to be. It means nothing anymore.
I meant the duck’s resources. I never said losing a coach, especially Jonathan smith was not a big blow. I’m saying don’t give up. You have been competitive and won plenty of games in the past with less resources and more heart or grit or fan belief. If I was in your shoes, I’d refuse to give up hope. None of us fully know what the future of college football will bring. The pac-12 has been fighting sec and big10 bias forever. The 12-game playoff eliminates a little of that. Money does nit necessarily buy championships. Coaching, heart, talent and resilience do. Way more examples of the latter than the former. It’s not happening now. But it can in the future. Please fight! Pessimism will not win in the end.
I’ll also add, you never were in a pac-12 championship, won a rose bowl since 1942 or competed for a natty. I am truly not trying to be a jerk here, lord knows we don’t have much of that, but you have always been a spoiler. You can still be that. The playing field has been off for a while, just not in the same way, yet you still persevered. You can have your year too. But not if you give up. Boise state certainly doesn’t act like they are doomed.
I appreciate your kind tone, Mere, but what I say is not pessimism. It's reality.
The disparities of money and conferences have become insurmountable and will only worsen.
I think I've moved in my grief process about the conference implosion from anger to acceptance, and that's a healthy and honest and realistic place to be.
What you say about effort and hard work making a difference in the Civil War made some sense in the past, but no more. It's like telling a 1 A high school football team that if they just work real, real hard, they can beat that big 6 A school down the road. It's unfair to even suggest such a thing.
Far better for everyone to fully move onto the new normal and leave the increasingly disheartening Civil War remnant in the past.
Jean, I wish you and your team well. My grief process is still working through acceptance. Because yes, I may be the alumni and fan of a football team that did not get left behind in this mess, but it does but make the loss any less profound, just a different history and experience.
All week leading up to the Civil War it was the Beav’s were likely going to take it to the Ducks but the reverse happened so now it’s the Beav’s are in rebuilding this season.
The national perception is Oregon's overrated, if not fraudulent. They haven't played a ranked team and haven't beaten a ranked team. Not the first time Phil's spent a lot of money for a bunch of players and been disappointed.
I'm still riding high from the Apple Cup yesterday. I was in Section 326, which is in the SW corner of Lumen Field, so the game-sealing defensive stand unfolded right in front of me. Cathartic is the perfect adjective to describe my emotions after the clock hit 0:00. I locked arms with other fellow Cougs in my row and we collectively and spontaneously belted out the lyrics to "Back Home" as we watched the sea of crimson flood the field. In that moment these folks weren't strangers they were family. I lost count of the number of photos and videos I took of the field afterwards. I didn't want to leave, and nobody else in Coug Nation seemingly wanted to, either. It was exactly what we needed as a fan base. Go Cougs!
Oregon v Oregon State is a football game, that’s all it is! Some fans need to put things in prospective. None had anything to do with their team winning or losing. They threw no passes and scored no touchdowns. For some reason there are some fans that have an emotional need for their team to win.
When their team wins not only does it make them happy but it also gives them a sense of worth and
a feeling of elevation over the losing team’s fans.
Some fans wear their team’s victory with graciousness others are hard to be around.
Remember it is just a game and you literally had nothing to do with the outcome!
I found this on-line: Service academy athletes are not allowed to accept Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) deals. This restriction is due to federal law, which classifies these students as employees of the government because their tuition and housing are funded by the government. As such, they are subject to ethical codes that prohibit using their public office for private gain, including NIL engagements. Seems like service academies will be impacted by this in ways that doesn’t apply to other schools.
Hats off to Wazzu. It was a good battle put up by the Beavers for a half.
More money for the Army and Navy in the Pac-8 than the AAC? Ditto Memphis and Tulane? And, what about all of the travel concerns we heard about? No travel problem for a coast-to-coast New Model Pac-Whatever, right?
As any number of in-the-know college football talking heads noted post the Pac-2 tripling, there is no way the Pac-Whatever will be given Power status and its champ guaranteed a playoff spot. It's unfortunate but it's the Market Place.
I think if we include east coast teams, there needs to be the equal teams on both sides to make the bulk of games short travel with a couple long travel games.
Kudos to Oregon coaches, really, on correcting some of the mistakes from the two previous games. Almost no penalties, players attention to business at hand, finishing the plays. It was nice to see. One of my favorite plays? Oregon defense player’s one handed grab of the rushing back’s foot… to stop the play. Might have been #28…
Gevani McCoy looks like Joe Montana compared to DJU this year.
I also thought he looked pretty good but seemed to have only one good receiver, Walker.
They need WRs
Beavs were without starting center and wall of a man Van Wells (Do we know why?) and starting right tackle. We aren't deep in the Oline. So judging McCoy or our RBs for this game is not fair. (remember just the other two weeks when UO couldn't defend Gabriel?)
I remember this week and they did a pretty good job of defending Gabriel against the mighty Beav’s.
Good job missing my entire point... Just like a Duck to make it all about them
September “Apple Cup” soooooo much fun…pregame at CougFan breakfast tailgate and meeting many great Cougs followed by Marco Polo B&G pregame and more Cougs, to Lumen with many more (but not enough) Cougs, witnessing a hell of a Coug win with puppies dismayed, post Game on Lumen field with soo many crazy Cougs in the Butch “mosh pit”, walking off Lumen through tunnel with all yelling….Goooo…..Cougs, post game celebratory shot with all Coug brothers and sisters, to rewatching the game at family bbq to finally rolling into bed, throat hashed and voice gone. Woke up this morning and asked my wife….Can we do that again?:)
I've been around the CW (the game, not the tv channel) for nearly 60 years, and yesterday felt very much like the rivalry, at least as long as it was close. Several Ducks I interacted with seemed to think so too. The intensity ebbs when the competitiveness does, and that's also been the case with many lopsided editions in the past.
The Apple Cup was more of a rivalry because it was a close contest down to the wire. Reverse the scores and the Civil War would have been massively intense, and the Apple Cup would have turned into applesauce.
I agree the 1st half was truly a rivalry. The Beav fans knew the Ducks were better but they were hanging in there. Even when the Ducks only got a FG in the opening of the 2nd Half there was still hope. I wore Beaver gear in my Club seat while my son & GF were in Duck seats in Duck colors up near the UO band. It wasn't much different than previous Civil Wars and the intensity only got crazy if the game was close.
September or November it's still ,a Civil Rivalry unless its not clear who is going to win and then it feels like a War. We will see that again no matter when it is played.
Perfect refutation of John's perspective.
Glad they thought so… the stadium energy wasn’t there. Even before kick. Something missing
Is not the stadium new this year? Was the change in atmosphere partially due to the new stadium size and configuration? Never been to Reesers before or after. Just curious.
Not the stadium. The problem was the bombing of a 108-year-old conference for reasons of status. And that the comparison of resources was like a private school in Scio having to play Jesuit.
That’s the point, Andy. First half was spirited, but when the Ducks started to pull Way, so did Beaver fans.
Go Cougs! Lumen field electric and theCougs controlled the entire football game. Rushing the field was blast! Always great when all the pseudo Hushy fans slink out of the stadium after an Apple Cup loss!
As a die hard Coug, I must admit that I was not very “happy” during the game (which I watched on Peacock). More like stressed out and terrified!! I was happy after the game, but I actually felt more drained and relieved!! During the 4th quarter I told my wife that I wished I could just time travel to the end of the game and see the final score, without having to actually live through it! 😨😨
I have felt the same way for some games. BTW...why was this game at Lumen field vs at UW or at WSU?
I think they "agreed" to a 5-game continuation. So, the "neutral site" at Lumen was the compromise instead of 3-2. There were some shared revenue projections on the neutral site game. Not sure how that worked out since attendance was about 80 percent of capacity.
Because the UW conference game home/road split went from being 5 home and 4 road in even years to being 5 home and 4 road in odd years, UW needs the apple cup to be in husky stadium in even years. But because it was in husky stadium last season WSU didn’t want to play 2 straight apple cup road games so a compromise was reached and they had the neutral site game this year to satisfy the needs of both schools
This problem was not created in the Civil War and thus they were able to keep it on the same home/road schedule as it was when both team were in the Pac
I’ve seen a lot of Civil Wars in person over the years, but this was my first in Corvallis since 1998. I swore that I would never return to Parker (now Reser) Stadium. Beaver fans were just too much. Even back then. After the second quarter yesterday however, the Duck fans were all I heard. While I hope the series continues, and finds a way to be competitive, I’ll enjoy this into the bye week. It’s a great day to be a Duck.
You were bold to go in 1998. It was pouring down rain that year (my last at OSU). And the Beavers put up an unexpectedly good fight and won.
I'm good if the series takes a break until after there are rules around pay for play that create some equality between schools. An uncompetitive Civil War may be desirable for Duck fans, but I don't think it is good for the State in general. Phil has done a good job turning Oregon into a semi-professipnal team (wonder why they don't publish the payroll?). It was obvious yesterday that JS left the Beavers in a massive rebuilding mode when he abandoned the team for the supposedly greener grass of Michigan State (he may have as long a year as the Beavers do).
There are always excuses on the losing side.
And with why they can’t they can’t succeed with the “big boys”. They blame Oregon for not having a “rich benefactor”. They’ve had 30 years (and beyond) to figure it out, along with the Ducks. The excuses are growing tired.
Phil Knight couldn't buy a national championship, so he bought the Civil War.
As we exited the stadium, we walked past the Duck buses, including 10 or 12 Oregon State Police motorcycles, all parked in a neat formation.
I was struck to see that on each and every motorcycle, a motorcycle helmet in Oregon’s colors was attached. I thought to myself, aren’t these the police paid by ALL of the taxpayers of the State of Oregon, therefore, shouldn’t their helmets be standard issue, ie, neutral? As I walked past, a trooper smiled at me. I just said that I didn’t like the helmets. He said nothing, but his smile went away.
For crying out loud, did PK buy the state patrol too?
The Ducks played great, clearly the better team, but can’t the cops stay in the neutral lane?
I walked past those same motorcycles. Helmets surprised me at first too, but they were City of Eugene police, not State troopers.
🤣 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Did he clear that with you? It's your money too. lolz
I'm here all week....
"supposedly greener Grass of Michigan State" JS is a good coach an deserves to be a power 4 Coach at a better situation than that of the Beavs.
Smith joins Dantonio in 2007, Bobby Williams in 2000, George Gauthier in 1918 and Frank Sommers in 1916 as the only first year coaches to start with 3 wins.
Um. Let's be honest. One of those three is close to a quality win (if you count Maryland as quality, which is debatable). If Oregon State had played Prairie View instead of Oregon yesterday, then Trent would be on that list. But, that wouldn't make him a great coach or his team a remotely good team.
OSU needs a big time, loyal alum like Phil. Anyone spoken with Jensen?
Or… if enough regular fans get together and decide to donate or contribute to their NIL funds, they can build up the money. I’ve been donating to the Duck Athletic Fund for 25 years (for example) and I’m just a small duckling. It’s not just Phil… there’s enough of us out there contributing. It’s been that way for years. Stop waiting for a savior. Do it NOW.
Todd, you and I both know (as actual friends) that your individual donation isn't changing the landscape). Take away PK and Oregon doesn't get an invite to the Big 10 or the ability to pay a reported $23 million in NIL money.
Of course they talk with him. He just donated $50 million for the supercomputer building under construction. He is more interested in academics than athletics.
After the dedication ceremony to start construction, he ordered a Woodstock's pizza to go. He and his wife were huge fans of Woodstock's as undergrads.
Nice, Woodstock was my favorite as well! Great to know it is still going strong!!
The Huangs apparently (because nobody knows for sure) haven't shown interest in providing substantial support for the OSU athletic program. But that $50 million contribution to the new tech center shows that they cares about the school.
Maybe somebody should sit down with Jen-Hsun and his wife (they're both OSU grads) and explain how putting OSU's major sports programs can have a positive impact on recruitment of students into technology programs. Not all of those interested in computer technology majors are nerds with little use for athletics. There are lots of smart young people out there for whom high profile, winning sports teams is part of their criteria when deciding which school to attend.
Phil Knight's investment in UO has no doubt paid off in ways that extend far beyond success in its major sports. It has no doubt led to huge amounts of grant money being received for other programs, including fields related to science and technology. It probably also has some positive impact on recruiting of professors -- some of whom care about a university's visibility and overall academic reputation.
I hope it dies. Too one sided $$ wise to ever be competitive again.
That's rich. "Beaver fans were just too much." Duck fans are the definition of being "too much."
How does NIL work at the service academies? I’m retired AF and have no idea. Plus, how are they dealing with the transfer portal? Seems this would operate much differently for the service academies and likely has an impact on recruiting? discuss.
Great question.
I'm not an expert but I seem to recall high school students needing a written reference from a US Senator to be considered for admission to AFA, West Point and Anappolis.
Representative or Senator.
NIL is not allowed at Service Academies.
That is the primary was to get into an academy. There are some others (children of a Medal of Honor recipient are an automatic for example). I believe they have some additional positions to be given on merit (being good at football is probably a merit?). I would guess that NIL is not allowed, but that is a VERY interesting question.
As stated in another part of the comments sections, service academy students are considered military personnel and as such they are paid every month.
If CJS would have stayed, I think the Beavers could have beaten the Ducks yesterday, but when Smith pulled the plug, it forced a complete reset of the Beaver team on both sides of the ball + the coaching staff. Given that was only 10 months ago, it was a bridge too far. We saw the Beavers hang in the first half, but missing 2 starting offensive linemen, their best WR and starting DB, the depth wasn't there and they wore down. Much like the job Smith faced in 2018, it's gonna take Trent Bray a few years to rebuild the Beaver depth chart. Despite the huge financial disadvantage with Oregon, OSU will figure out a way to be competitive.
These coaches seem like improvements from JS and Lindgren too. I think it will take less time than we expect.
I was trying to say the same thing on another article. I got defeated poor me beaver response. I’m a duck alumni. I’m also a native Oregonian. I was glad my team finally played to expectation most of yesterday, but you beat us in 2022 with the same resources. Money helps, but dues nit replace heart, grit and coaching. We duck fans do know what it feels like to be deserted by a coach we believed in. I hope you win out and rebuild and we return to a grind out match…September or November spoiler. Not all duck fans are bandwagon non-alumni who know it actually rains in autzen.
You honestly believe that resources are the same now for the Beavers as in 2022? Not just a loss of the head coach, but most of his staff, most of the key players, and most of the conference.
As circumstances stand, the Civil War will never return to a fair fight. Best to let it go entirely. Any Duck wins now are hollow and will continue to be. It means nothing anymore.
I meant the duck’s resources. I never said losing a coach, especially Jonathan smith was not a big blow. I’m saying don’t give up. You have been competitive and won plenty of games in the past with less resources and more heart or grit or fan belief. If I was in your shoes, I’d refuse to give up hope. None of us fully know what the future of college football will bring. The pac-12 has been fighting sec and big10 bias forever. The 12-game playoff eliminates a little of that. Money does nit necessarily buy championships. Coaching, heart, talent and resilience do. Way more examples of the latter than the former. It’s not happening now. But it can in the future. Please fight! Pessimism will not win in the end.
I’ll also add, you never were in a pac-12 championship, won a rose bowl since 1942 or competed for a natty. I am truly not trying to be a jerk here, lord knows we don’t have much of that, but you have always been a spoiler. You can still be that. The playing field has been off for a while, just not in the same way, yet you still persevered. You can have your year too. But not if you give up. Boise state certainly doesn’t act like they are doomed.
I appreciate your kind tone, Mere, but what I say is not pessimism. It's reality.
The disparities of money and conferences have become insurmountable and will only worsen.
I think I've moved in my grief process about the conference implosion from anger to acceptance, and that's a healthy and honest and realistic place to be.
What you say about effort and hard work making a difference in the Civil War made some sense in the past, but no more. It's like telling a 1 A high school football team that if they just work real, real hard, they can beat that big 6 A school down the road. It's unfair to even suggest such a thing.
Far better for everyone to fully move onto the new normal and leave the increasingly disheartening Civil War remnant in the past.
Jean, I wish you and your team well. My grief process is still working through acceptance. Because yes, I may be the alumni and fan of a football team that did not get left behind in this mess, but it does but make the loss any less profound, just a different history and experience.
Thank you, Mere. Best to you, too.
All week leading up to the Civil War it was the Beav’s were likely going to take it to the Ducks but the reverse happened so now it’s the Beav’s are in rebuilding this season.
The national perception is Oregon's overrated, if not fraudulent. They haven't played a ranked team and haven't beaten a ranked team. Not the first time Phil's spent a lot of money for a bunch of players and been disappointed.
Hate Eugene, Hate Phil and Hate the Ducks! Got it!
Jerry and family need to have breakfast at Wise Cracks in downtown Corvallis. OSU fan and coaches favorite. It will be rocking on gameday.
GO DUCKS🏈🦆
I went to OSU in the 80s. Glad to see Clodfelter's is still around. Also try WiseCracks Cafe.
I'm still riding high from the Apple Cup yesterday. I was in Section 326, which is in the SW corner of Lumen Field, so the game-sealing defensive stand unfolded right in front of me. Cathartic is the perfect adjective to describe my emotions after the clock hit 0:00. I locked arms with other fellow Cougs in my row and we collectively and spontaneously belted out the lyrics to "Back Home" as we watched the sea of crimson flood the field. In that moment these folks weren't strangers they were family. I lost count of the number of photos and videos I took of the field afterwards. I didn't want to leave, and nobody else in Coug Nation seemingly wanted to, either. It was exactly what we needed as a fan base. Go Cougs!
Oregon v Oregon State is a football game, that’s all it is! Some fans need to put things in prospective. None had anything to do with their team winning or losing. They threw no passes and scored no touchdowns. For some reason there are some fans that have an emotional need for their team to win.
When their team wins not only does it make them happy but it also gives them a sense of worth and
a feeling of elevation over the losing team’s fans.
Some fans wear their team’s victory with graciousness others are hard to be around.
Remember it is just a game and you literally had nothing to do with the outcome!
I found this on-line: Service academy athletes are not allowed to accept Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) deals. This restriction is due to federal law, which classifies these students as employees of the government because their tuition and housing are funded by the government. As such, they are subject to ethical codes that prohibit using their public office for private gain, including NIL engagements. Seems like service academies will be impacted by this in ways that doesn’t apply to other schools.
They also get paid every month. USNA Midshipmen get paid about $1,100 per month as plebes and the stipend grows every year.
Also stoked for the Cougs!
Hats off to Wazzu. It was a good battle put up by the Beavers for a half.
More money for the Army and Navy in the Pac-8 than the AAC? Ditto Memphis and Tulane? And, what about all of the travel concerns we heard about? No travel problem for a coast-to-coast New Model Pac-Whatever, right?
As any number of in-the-know college football talking heads noted post the Pac-2 tripling, there is no way the Pac-Whatever will be given Power status and its champ guaranteed a playoff spot. It's unfortunate but it's the Market Place.
Go Beavers, beat Poor-Due!
I think if we include east coast teams, there needs to be the equal teams on both sides to make the bulk of games short travel with a couple long travel games.
Nobody has a guaranteed playoff spot. The 5 top-ranked conference champions get a spot, but non are reserved for any particular conference.
Kudos to Oregon coaches, really, on correcting some of the mistakes from the two previous games. Almost no penalties, players attention to business at hand, finishing the plays. It was nice to see. One of my favorite plays? Oregon defense player’s one handed grab of the rushing back’s foot… to stop the play. Might have been #28…