Thanks. John, for this very thorough and informative discussion of what's been wrong with the way the heads of the PAC 12 colleges have functioned with the Commissioner. It's too bad only two are still around. The other 10 should have to face the music for their failures.
You cannot be up front and candid when you are in the midst of confidential negotiations. (You don't show your hand when you play cards). It would be nice if the behind the scenes dialogues could produce tangible results that could be made public. And bashing USC/UCLA doesn't win any points either. I am sure he will take the high ground, but show his determination to keep the PAC 10 solvent.
Hey John: Your piece yesterday comparing the pac-12 to the Big 12 was very informative, and I like learning things from you on the Bald Faced truth! What you wrote today about the Pac-12 media day was good also. I hope the new pac-12 commisch comes through for the pac-12. If he has one hint of being like Larry Scott, I will be very upset. I do not like the late starts for the pac-12. I was back east a few years ago and wanted to watch the Ducks on tv. My nephew, who lives in Virginia, wanted to see the Huskies too. Both games were late starts, like 10:30 pm. As you have stated before, how many pac-12 fans who now live back east, will be able to gear up their football Saturday for a game that will not be over before 2 am? I loved visiting my nephew and his wife and their two five year old twins, one boy and one girl. Now they have a third child, just born. Both parents went to Stanford, as did my brother in law. My nephew loves sports like me. He only went to school for like eight years after he graduated from the Cardinal, and now has a PHD in economics. His wife has a doctorate in pharmacy, and works in a hospital, with a medical doctor seeing patients. My nephew grew up a Husky in Seattle. He took me to a Washington National baseball game in 2015, when I first visited them. It was a beautiful new park, built in an industrial area. The only real access was by subway, and d.c. has a newer system that we used a lot.. This is the same trip that I went to Yankee stadium for two games. I hope to go back soon, however even though I have had four pfizer covid shots, my Kaiser physician has advised me to not travel by air unless it is absolutely necessary. She further said to avoid all cruise ships, even though now they are serving Astoria, Oregon. The risk by air is such: say the guy next to you on the plane has not been vaccinated, even though you have a mask that you do not remove. So your neighbor has covid, he is eating and drinking and could end up coughing on you. I am almost 71, and contrary to what many trumpsters I know think, I know covid is real, as is global warming. I am a very strong liberal Christian democrat who has never voted for a republican for President and never will. My new title for what I write on same site as you, is called Donnie Duck's Latest. It is Pac-12, Duck football, liberal democrat, and DUMP TRUMP 2024. If these people do not want to get vaccinated, is their right. If they want to die from covid, is up to them. They are being very selfish by not thinking about the people they are around. I have a brand new passport, and proof of all my vaccinines for covid. I work from home as a travel agent. I want to travel, but being here with my service animal, a black mini panther kitty named Shadow, is just fine with me. The pool at my new complex, where I just moved a month ago, finally opened. I have a portable air conditioner in my bedroom that keeps the room at about 72 degress. Shadow and I go in there and watch tv or I write on my lap top. All is good, and last year I only drove 1100 miles, much different than the 10 times that which I used to do working at the airport for a private parking company. I did this for 13 years, and sure do not miss going to the airport at 3:30 am, five days a week. I do know the travel industry quite well. I will just wait to go anywhere by plane until my doctor says is safer. The air conditioning works very well in my 25 year old black car with dark tinted windows. I do like driving a lot, but have no desire to drive to new york today or next month, Is on my bucket list to drive cross country someday. I appreciate that you have pointed out John, that the late starting time for pac-12 games could work well if ESPN wants these games. Die hard Duck fans like me can handle 7:30 pdt starting times, especially if it means more tv revenue and more nationwide exposure. I watch many games on Saturdays and Sundays too during football season. With three tvs and voice activated remotes on each one, you would be amazed how many games I can watch. I keep track of each game closely, and as soon as I hit a commercial on any tv, I am outta there, and back to another game. I pray that the new head of the pac-12 that you will see this week, will do all he can to get a new tv deal for the conference. If he does not, we Pac-12 fans will be following a broken model again. If I was UCLA or USC, I would be beyond joyful at the huge increase each school will get by joinging the Big 10. It is now or never for the Pac-12, and they do not need to add any teams. Gonzaga in basketball is always over-rated, and since Mark Few got a DUI before last season started, among other issues, we do not need them in basketball. Their conference is very weak, and all you have to do is see how the teams do in the NCAA tourney each year. Mainly one and done. With the LA schools gone in two years, unless the Pac-12 steps up right now and ditches the Pac-12 tv station ( a poor example of what a Larry Scott run circus can produce) and hooks up for a long term ESPN deal, the Pac-12 will never catch the big boys in football and basketball. Never. Huge tv revenue runs all sports; you either get a great amount of funds from ESPN right now that is locked in and guaranteed, or you can kiss your rear end good by forever. The value of ESPN in billions, is MORE than all pro teams, in all sports, COMBINED . Billions upon more billions. Fact check me. If ESPN does not want to pay you right now, and to a lesser extent FOX, you will get stuck in dreaming of the old days when you could park at Autzen,or do tail gates at any park. Your take on all the cool things to do at a Pac-12 game live in person, hit the nail on the head John. Sure glad we have tv and driving to Eugene for a night game is not as cool as before, unless, of course you spend the night! GO DUCKS, the clock is ticking on the whole conference, just like I hope it is on the dumpster trumpster and whatever circus act he picks this time. DUMP TRUMP 2024 PLEASE VOTE BLUE. Many thanks, Mr. Canzano, for being so fun to read each day! Donnie Duck's Latest
You need to get a hold of my business partner Dan Beebe ex commish of the Big 12. He predicted all of this realignment 10 years ago and fought against it and got fired because he thought it would not be in the best interest of the student athletes. College Presidents have become politicians not educators. Those presidents should be standing before the press that hired Larry Scott.
Well, the words of Kevin Warren in his opening remarks at Big Ten media days can't come as much comfort to the Pac. Two things stood out:
1) He all but came right out and stated the Big Ten is not done expanding. He didn't get specific on who or when it will happen again, but in discussing it he used words like "bold" and "aggressive."
2) He pretty much said that USC and UCLA will provide the Big Ten football content for the late night TV windows that were previously the exclusive domain of the Pac-12, at least among Power 5 conferences. I doubt that with just two schools out West the Big Ten/Fox could have a full season of late night content, but even just 4-5 weeks a season of Big Ten games at 10:30pm ET could devalue what ESPN, or whoever, would be willing to pay the Pac for those games with the competition for viewers from a bigger-name conference.
My agenda would put USC and UCLA coaches, ADs, and presidents on stage first for a retrospective. What went wrong, from their eyes, why did they proceed as they did, what should have been done differently to keep them. If they wish to sit on the stage for 20 minutes of silence, so be it. Give them the stare down.
No one has commented on the day USC and UCLA announced their departure was the anniversary of Kliavkoff as the Commissioner to the day, is that pure coincidence? Or was this a message sent over the bow by those two teams?
By the quote: "What is George supposed to do when USC lies to his face?”... it would seem it was a message to Kliavkoff, and a very personal one at that... but why such animosity towards a guy that seemed like he was fixing Scott's problems?
What's done is done, we need to strengthen the Pac10 ASAP. First, salvage what we can in terms of media markets in California. That means bring in San Diego State and Fresno State immediately. Next, monopolize the state of Nevada. Bring in Nevada and UNLV. These both make sense. Next, round out our conference by creating two new in State rivalries by adding Utah State and Colorado State. Boom. Now we have the San Diego and Fresno market in California, and we have blanketed 3 additional states in Nevada, Utah, and Colorado. Don't like it, go to hell. It's the best plan out there for us to survive.
John, I think it’s worth pressing GK on how he could be blindsided by UCLA and USC leaving the conference. I just find it hard to believe that something as big as two of the highest profile schools just up and leave and no one had a clue. I get the line that he was lied to but that just seems a bit fishy to me. Would like to hear you press GK on how that could happen and what his plan is to prevent these huge setbacks from occurring in the future.
The Presidents and Chancellors carelessly killed, or damn near, the Pac-12 football golden goose. Larry Scott needed to be fired years ago.
By the way, stop the Big12 comparisons. No one cares whether they are worse off than the Pac 10 or not. Who's the tallest little person is irrelevant in a room with two seven-footers.
John, you neglect to stated that the Navigate data show the PAC passing the Big 12 while still having USC and UCLA. It doesn't reflect their move to the B1G.
Perfect example of a liberal. Bereft of factual arguments, you resort to vicious name calling, your comments lack any connection with reality, and you close by demanding an end to my rights. Yep, you are a perfect example of what's ruining the West Coast, destroying liberty, holding down poor people, murdering babies, etc.
What proof does the we AD have that USC lied to his face? Short changing USC'S revenue share over the years had to irk them. Don't blame them for bolting.
Thanks. John, for this very thorough and informative discussion of what's been wrong with the way the heads of the PAC 12 colleges have functioned with the Commissioner. It's too bad only two are still around. The other 10 should have to face the music for their failures.
You cannot be up front and candid when you are in the midst of confidential negotiations. (You don't show your hand when you play cards). It would be nice if the behind the scenes dialogues could produce tangible results that could be made public. And bashing USC/UCLA doesn't win any points either. I am sure he will take the high ground, but show his determination to keep the PAC 10 solvent.
Hey John: Your piece yesterday comparing the pac-12 to the Big 12 was very informative, and I like learning things from you on the Bald Faced truth! What you wrote today about the Pac-12 media day was good also. I hope the new pac-12 commisch comes through for the pac-12. If he has one hint of being like Larry Scott, I will be very upset. I do not like the late starts for the pac-12. I was back east a few years ago and wanted to watch the Ducks on tv. My nephew, who lives in Virginia, wanted to see the Huskies too. Both games were late starts, like 10:30 pm. As you have stated before, how many pac-12 fans who now live back east, will be able to gear up their football Saturday for a game that will not be over before 2 am? I loved visiting my nephew and his wife and their two five year old twins, one boy and one girl. Now they have a third child, just born. Both parents went to Stanford, as did my brother in law. My nephew loves sports like me. He only went to school for like eight years after he graduated from the Cardinal, and now has a PHD in economics. His wife has a doctorate in pharmacy, and works in a hospital, with a medical doctor seeing patients. My nephew grew up a Husky in Seattle. He took me to a Washington National baseball game in 2015, when I first visited them. It was a beautiful new park, built in an industrial area. The only real access was by subway, and d.c. has a newer system that we used a lot.. This is the same trip that I went to Yankee stadium for two games. I hope to go back soon, however even though I have had four pfizer covid shots, my Kaiser physician has advised me to not travel by air unless it is absolutely necessary. She further said to avoid all cruise ships, even though now they are serving Astoria, Oregon. The risk by air is such: say the guy next to you on the plane has not been vaccinated, even though you have a mask that you do not remove. So your neighbor has covid, he is eating and drinking and could end up coughing on you. I am almost 71, and contrary to what many trumpsters I know think, I know covid is real, as is global warming. I am a very strong liberal Christian democrat who has never voted for a republican for President and never will. My new title for what I write on same site as you, is called Donnie Duck's Latest. It is Pac-12, Duck football, liberal democrat, and DUMP TRUMP 2024. If these people do not want to get vaccinated, is their right. If they want to die from covid, is up to them. They are being very selfish by not thinking about the people they are around. I have a brand new passport, and proof of all my vaccinines for covid. I work from home as a travel agent. I want to travel, but being here with my service animal, a black mini panther kitty named Shadow, is just fine with me. The pool at my new complex, where I just moved a month ago, finally opened. I have a portable air conditioner in my bedroom that keeps the room at about 72 degress. Shadow and I go in there and watch tv or I write on my lap top. All is good, and last year I only drove 1100 miles, much different than the 10 times that which I used to do working at the airport for a private parking company. I did this for 13 years, and sure do not miss going to the airport at 3:30 am, five days a week. I do know the travel industry quite well. I will just wait to go anywhere by plane until my doctor says is safer. The air conditioning works very well in my 25 year old black car with dark tinted windows. I do like driving a lot, but have no desire to drive to new york today or next month, Is on my bucket list to drive cross country someday. I appreciate that you have pointed out John, that the late starting time for pac-12 games could work well if ESPN wants these games. Die hard Duck fans like me can handle 7:30 pdt starting times, especially if it means more tv revenue and more nationwide exposure. I watch many games on Saturdays and Sundays too during football season. With three tvs and voice activated remotes on each one, you would be amazed how many games I can watch. I keep track of each game closely, and as soon as I hit a commercial on any tv, I am outta there, and back to another game. I pray that the new head of the pac-12 that you will see this week, will do all he can to get a new tv deal for the conference. If he does not, we Pac-12 fans will be following a broken model again. If I was UCLA or USC, I would be beyond joyful at the huge increase each school will get by joinging the Big 10. It is now or never for the Pac-12, and they do not need to add any teams. Gonzaga in basketball is always over-rated, and since Mark Few got a DUI before last season started, among other issues, we do not need them in basketball. Their conference is very weak, and all you have to do is see how the teams do in the NCAA tourney each year. Mainly one and done. With the LA schools gone in two years, unless the Pac-12 steps up right now and ditches the Pac-12 tv station ( a poor example of what a Larry Scott run circus can produce) and hooks up for a long term ESPN deal, the Pac-12 will never catch the big boys in football and basketball. Never. Huge tv revenue runs all sports; you either get a great amount of funds from ESPN right now that is locked in and guaranteed, or you can kiss your rear end good by forever. The value of ESPN in billions, is MORE than all pro teams, in all sports, COMBINED . Billions upon more billions. Fact check me. If ESPN does not want to pay you right now, and to a lesser extent FOX, you will get stuck in dreaming of the old days when you could park at Autzen,or do tail gates at any park. Your take on all the cool things to do at a Pac-12 game live in person, hit the nail on the head John. Sure glad we have tv and driving to Eugene for a night game is not as cool as before, unless, of course you spend the night! GO DUCKS, the clock is ticking on the whole conference, just like I hope it is on the dumpster trumpster and whatever circus act he picks this time. DUMP TRUMP 2024 PLEASE VOTE BLUE. Many thanks, Mr. Canzano, for being so fun to read each day! Donnie Duck's Latest
You need to get a hold of my business partner Dan Beebe ex commish of the Big 12. He predicted all of this realignment 10 years ago and fought against it and got fired because he thought it would not be in the best interest of the student athletes. College Presidents have become politicians not educators. Those presidents should be standing before the press that hired Larry Scott.
Well, the words of Kevin Warren in his opening remarks at Big Ten media days can't come as much comfort to the Pac. Two things stood out:
1) He all but came right out and stated the Big Ten is not done expanding. He didn't get specific on who or when it will happen again, but in discussing it he used words like "bold" and "aggressive."
2) He pretty much said that USC and UCLA will provide the Big Ten football content for the late night TV windows that were previously the exclusive domain of the Pac-12, at least among Power 5 conferences. I doubt that with just two schools out West the Big Ten/Fox could have a full season of late night content, but even just 4-5 weeks a season of Big Ten games at 10:30pm ET could devalue what ESPN, or whoever, would be willing to pay the Pac for those games with the competition for viewers from a bigger-name conference.
My agenda would put USC and UCLA coaches, ADs, and presidents on stage first for a retrospective. What went wrong, from their eyes, why did they proceed as they did, what should have been done differently to keep them. If they wish to sit on the stage for 20 minutes of silence, so be it. Give them the stare down.
No one has commented on the day USC and UCLA announced their departure was the anniversary of Kliavkoff as the Commissioner to the day, is that pure coincidence? Or was this a message sent over the bow by those two teams?
By the quote: "What is George supposed to do when USC lies to his face?”... it would seem it was a message to Kliavkoff, and a very personal one at that... but why such animosity towards a guy that seemed like he was fixing Scott's problems?
In particular one thing I've not seen yet is whether Lincoln Riley knew this was coming or did this catch him by surprise as much as anyone.
What's done is done, we need to strengthen the Pac10 ASAP. First, salvage what we can in terms of media markets in California. That means bring in San Diego State and Fresno State immediately. Next, monopolize the state of Nevada. Bring in Nevada and UNLV. These both make sense. Next, round out our conference by creating two new in State rivalries by adding Utah State and Colorado State. Boom. Now we have the San Diego and Fresno market in California, and we have blanketed 3 additional states in Nevada, Utah, and Colorado. Don't like it, go to hell. It's the best plan out there for us to survive.
John, I think it’s worth pressing GK on how he could be blindsided by UCLA and USC leaving the conference. I just find it hard to believe that something as big as two of the highest profile schools just up and leave and no one had a clue. I get the line that he was lied to but that just seems a bit fishy to me. Would like to hear you press GK on how that could happen and what his plan is to prevent these huge setbacks from occurring in the future.
Larry Scott....It saddens me every time I hear his name mentioned
Your analisys is excellent,, John.
The Presidents and Chancellors carelessly killed, or damn near, the Pac-12 football golden goose. Larry Scott needed to be fired years ago.
By the way, stop the Big12 comparisons. No one cares whether they are worse off than the Pac 10 or not. Who's the tallest little person is irrelevant in a room with two seven-footers.
John, you neglect to stated that the Navigate data show the PAC passing the Big 12 while still having USC and UCLA. It doesn't reflect their move to the B1G.
Perfect example of a liberal. Bereft of factual arguments, you resort to vicious name calling, your comments lack any connection with reality, and you close by demanding an end to my rights. Yep, you are a perfect example of what's ruining the West Coast, destroying liberty, holding down poor people, murdering babies, etc.
What proof does the we AD have that USC lied to his face? Short changing USC'S revenue share over the years had to irk them. Don't blame them for bolting.