Bluster and talk by Yormark? He's also the only one with any action to date having obtained a reasonable media deal dollars and visibility wise. And his administration negotiated a financially lucrative early exit of UT and OU. And I presume they have been working to assimilate the new conference members.
Meanwhile, on the Pac 12 front, nothing to date regarding media, expansion, officiating issues, ...
Very sad that attorney Kliavkoff trusted another attorney Warren not to lie to him.
GK was sucker punched by Yormark, Warren, the B1G, FOX, Carol Folt, USC, and UCLA. Yet a consultant somewhere received a big check for advising the conference to hire GK.
I sure wish the conference had brought in ex-B1G commissioner Jim Delaney as a consultant/commissioner instead of again hiring a guy with no experience in the world of college sports.
I am hoping for conference survival but the conference 'leaders' have done all they could to make The Conference of Champions disappear.
I think the goal may be for Apple or Amazon to take over the recently relocated network facilities and produce Pac-10 coverage from there.
I think the Pac-10 wants to be out of the network business; a business that never met the lowest going forward financial projections.
And to think, the conference rejected an offer from ESPN to take over and operate the network. Just one of the many miserable business decisions made by the conference.
Yormark went to market earlier. He may end up smart because of it. He may end up leaving $$ on table. I think we need a bigger view. That comes after Pac-12 gets a deal.
Apr 9, 2023·edited Apr 9, 2023Liked by John Canzano
I got a chuckle out of "The portal is portalin' " comment...until the thought popped into my head that a black hole sink where talent seems to vanish is centrally-located in the Women's Basketball locker room at the UO.
The smile vanished & I am left with the thought that something is terribly amiss down there. Ever since the GOAT left for the WNBA, the subtractions have outstripped the additions. And the results are bearing out.
With the 2 best players recently leaving [PaoPao & Rogers], Kelly Graves has both soul-searching & explaining to do.
And let’s not forget Sedona. It’s great that she gets to spend her last year close to home, and with a beloved former UO coach. But I do wonder what else might be going on with Graves and his team… something big?
Agree, something is not good with the Duck Women. Is it in the locker room, the practice court, or Grave’s style? Disappointed with the lack of heart on this and last season’s squad.
I don't think that is Graves, a coach who developed Vandersloot and Ionescu didn't just lose it overnight. But I think the players have changed quickly and dramatically between the portal and NIL. It used to be that you either stuck with a coach's program or transferred and sat out a year. that has undercut some good coaches and their systems completely. I think we have to find a middle ground between the revolving door portal and the banishment that the old system could bring about.
Happy Passover...they tried to get us, we escaped, we are alive...let's eat :)
If you like Chris O'Dowd in his new show watch him on Netflix in the "IT Crowd." One of the funniest shows I have ever seen and for anyone who lived in the IT basement, it is hysterical.
I used to attend at least 2 Cal games a year in basketball and I'm sure if Madsen makes them relevant I might do it again. It also has to do with the times of the game. The Saturday game was always at 2PM but if they start in with the TBD stuff they will never get me back. This whole transfer protocol and NIL has made the whole college athletic scene a complete joke in my view, but let's hear it for the greatest oxymoron on the planet earth...."the Student Athlete."
I follow the Big Sky Conference pretty closely, especially the northern teams (Eastern Washington and Idaho through the Spokane Spokesman-Review and the Montana schools through The Missoulian) and watch the games for these teams on ESPN+. I don't see them making the jump to the Mountain West due to the costs of "upgrading" from FCS to FBS together with these programs having a long, and generally successful history in FCS playoffs. The Texas schools that you mentioned are another story as they have all been looking for a good conference affiliation for their programs and have a completely different history (though a good deal of success). That success is partly why I would favor the Pac-10 adding both SMU and Rice to penetrate the Texas market/ playing field. Rice can easily put the resources into a successful Power 5 program with a reason to do so, and if you are going into that marketplace, do it right, no "toe in the water" approach.
Mark Madsen has done it all right at Utah Valley since taking over for mark Pope who started putting the program on the map before moving to BYU (yes, I follow the WAC too as Seattle U plays there). He will do for Cal basketball what most followers hope that Troy Taylor can do for Stanford football. Here's hoping that they can figure out blending the portal with high school recruiting with quality academics being about the only resource their school will give them.
And the portal: women's basketball will now be popular enough to look like men's basketball. High school one-and-dones are being replaced by programs getting older overnight as Mark Few puts it. Rebuilding a program becomes getting enough 5th year players to all come to your school on sort of a "rent-a-cop" basis. Don't have a good enough point card or shot-blocker? Recruit someone else's...
Montana and Montana State could potentially be great additions to the MWC, but as you implied the studies they did around 2010 concluded that it would not be worth it for them to make the leap to FBS. That said, you got to wonder how all of these schools in Texas (Sam Houston) and the Southern states (Kennesaw State & new revitalized WAC Conference) are all planning to move to FBS. My take on the Montana schools, especially the Grizzlies, is that their fanbase was pretty passionate and showed up in significant numbers. Why is it just Texas and the South?
Happy Easter, Passover & Ramadan! In my yoga class our instructor finished her session with this; inside each of us are 2 wolves fighting a fierce battle. One is full of hate and anger, envy & greed the other full of love, hope, humility and kindnesses.
Which one do you think will win. The answer is easy. The one you feed the most!
P.S. I think the Pac 12 should offer Fresno State a spot to block the big 12 from gaining a foothold on the west coast; editing to add that this action would not be unkind...just logical.
Leaking information a deal is close a few weeks ago, now a deal is months off…statements of unity..then silence…it sure seems like amateur hour. A deal will get done because there is limited 7:30 PM inventory available three nights a week.
Question on tanking. Can the Masters fine or suspend Justin Thomas for tanking? Bogeying 17, 18, his best friend backs into making the cut,... AND tying a record, That record now, is Bogus
Easter and Passover Greetings - busy, busy, lot's to keep up with. You go, John.
Bluster and talk by Yormark? He's also the only one with any action to date having obtained a reasonable media deal dollars and visibility wise. And his administration negotiated a financially lucrative early exit of UT and OU. And I presume they have been working to assimilate the new conference members.
Meanwhile, on the Pac 12 front, nothing to date regarding media, expansion, officiating issues, ...
You don’t think Kevin Warren got a deal?
Very sad that attorney Kliavkoff trusted another attorney Warren not to lie to him.
GK was sucker punched by Yormark, Warren, the B1G, FOX, Carol Folt, USC, and UCLA. Yet a consultant somewhere received a big check for advising the conference to hire GK.
I sure wish the conference had brought in ex-B1G commissioner Jim Delaney as a consultant/commissioner instead of again hiring a guy with no experience in the world of college sports.
I am hoping for conference survival but the conference 'leaders' have done all they could to make The Conference of Champions disappear.
We need to launch a consulting firm.
AMEN! Could we do much worse than the last 2 seers?
How much will it cost to watch the Pac 12 network, this coming year? Obviously we won't have a different network available till , what? Fall?
I think the goal may be for Apple or Amazon to take over the recently relocated network facilities and produce Pac-10 coverage from there.
I think the Pac-10 wants to be out of the network business; a business that never met the lowest going forward financial projections.
And to think, the conference rejected an offer from ESPN to take over and operate the network. Just one of the many miserable business decisions made by the conference.
As far as watching games, I'd be thrilled to see the Ducks in the B1G, and have every game on linear
Really just comparing P12 and B12.
Yormark went to market earlier. He may end up smart because of it. He may end up leaving $$ on table. I think we need a bigger view. That comes after Pac-12 gets a deal.
And Bob Bowlsby took little time after the Pac-12 rejected the orphaned B12 teams in adding 4 significant teams and markets.
Ditto...
Why is it people with the least amount of info on the new media deal being worked are the most confident in their assessment of the situation.
Sit back, relax... This is out of your control and understanding just as it is mine.
Social media exponentially increased hubris and impatience... It's not a good look
Well spoken
GO DAWGS
He's still running a truck-stop league.
Haha!!
I got a chuckle out of "The portal is portalin' " comment...until the thought popped into my head that a black hole sink where talent seems to vanish is centrally-located in the Women's Basketball locker room at the UO.
The smile vanished & I am left with the thought that something is terribly amiss down there. Ever since the GOAT left for the WNBA, the subtractions have outstripped the additions. And the results are bearing out.
With the 2 best players recently leaving [PaoPao & Rogers], Kelly Graves has both soul-searching & explaining to do.
And let’s not forget Sedona. It’s great that she gets to spend her last year close to home, and with a beloved former UO coach. But I do wonder what else might be going on with Graves and his team… something big?
DND,
Agree, something is not good with the Duck Women. Is it in the locker room, the practice court, or Grave’s style? Disappointed with the lack of heart on this and last season’s squad.
I don't think that is Graves, a coach who developed Vandersloot and Ionescu didn't just lose it overnight. But I think the players have changed quickly and dramatically between the portal and NIL. It used to be that you either stuck with a coach's program or transferred and sat out a year. that has undercut some good coaches and their systems completely. I think we have to find a middle ground between the revolving door portal and the banishment that the old system could bring about.
I agree. Fans are also way too fickle. Graves is an amazing coach. I hope he finds great success in every game except the series vs. the Beavs.
Happy Passover...they tried to get us, we escaped, we are alive...let's eat :)
If you like Chris O'Dowd in his new show watch him on Netflix in the "IT Crowd." One of the funniest shows I have ever seen and for anyone who lived in the IT basement, it is hysterical.
I used to attend at least 2 Cal games a year in basketball and I'm sure if Madsen makes them relevant I might do it again. It also has to do with the times of the game. The Saturday game was always at 2PM but if they start in with the TBD stuff they will never get me back. This whole transfer protocol and NIL has made the whole college athletic scene a complete joke in my view, but let's hear it for the greatest oxymoron on the planet earth...."the Student Athlete."
Happy Easter!!
He is risen, indeed!!
I follow the Big Sky Conference pretty closely, especially the northern teams (Eastern Washington and Idaho through the Spokane Spokesman-Review and the Montana schools through The Missoulian) and watch the games for these teams on ESPN+. I don't see them making the jump to the Mountain West due to the costs of "upgrading" from FCS to FBS together with these programs having a long, and generally successful history in FCS playoffs. The Texas schools that you mentioned are another story as they have all been looking for a good conference affiliation for their programs and have a completely different history (though a good deal of success). That success is partly why I would favor the Pac-10 adding both SMU and Rice to penetrate the Texas market/ playing field. Rice can easily put the resources into a successful Power 5 program with a reason to do so, and if you are going into that marketplace, do it right, no "toe in the water" approach.
Mark Madsen has done it all right at Utah Valley since taking over for mark Pope who started putting the program on the map before moving to BYU (yes, I follow the WAC too as Seattle U plays there). He will do for Cal basketball what most followers hope that Troy Taylor can do for Stanford football. Here's hoping that they can figure out blending the portal with high school recruiting with quality academics being about the only resource their school will give them.
And the portal: women's basketball will now be popular enough to look like men's basketball. High school one-and-dones are being replaced by programs getting older overnight as Mark Few puts it. Rebuilding a program becomes getting enough 5th year players to all come to your school on sort of a "rent-a-cop" basis. Don't have a good enough point card or shot-blocker? Recruit someone else's...
Montana and Montana State could potentially be great additions to the MWC, but as you implied the studies they did around 2010 concluded that it would not be worth it for them to make the leap to FBS. That said, you got to wonder how all of these schools in Texas (Sam Houston) and the Southern states (Kennesaw State & new revitalized WAC Conference) are all planning to move to FBS. My take on the Montana schools, especially the Grizzlies, is that their fanbase was pretty passionate and showed up in significant numbers. Why is it just Texas and the South?
Happy Easter, Passover & Ramadan! In my yoga class our instructor finished her session with this; inside each of us are 2 wolves fighting a fierce battle. One is full of hate and anger, envy & greed the other full of love, hope, humility and kindnesses.
Which one do you think will win. The answer is easy. The one you feed the most!
P.S. I think the Pac 12 should offer Fresno State a spot to block the big 12 from gaining a foothold on the west coast; editing to add that this action would not be unkind...just logical.
To your recommendation, I would add UNLV.
Yoga? Well happy Hindu Day to you! 😀
He has risen, indeed.
However you all worship, recall today the love of the carpenter’s son.
He is risen indeed!
You had me at "He is Risen"..........
Was thinking, you have more freedom in your current working model for those comments
Mark Madsen has me ready to run through a brick wall
Leaking information a deal is close a few weeks ago, now a deal is months off…statements of unity..then silence…it sure seems like amateur hour. A deal will get done because there is limited 7:30 PM inventory available three nights a week.
He is risen indeed.
Man, it would be nice to see Portland State in a position to move to the MWC.
Question on tanking. Can the Masters fine or suspend Justin Thomas for tanking? Bogeying 17, 18, his best friend backs into making the cut,... AND tying a record, That record now, is Bogus
Why are the women on the Oregon basketball team leaving through the transfers portal