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Edward Schwallie's avatar

So glad Chip is back in college. We need coaches like that vs automatrons like Saban and his clone Kirby. He may not be a pirate like Leach (R.I.P.), but he has always been just as creative and an interesting interview. We need voices like that in the CFB world.

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Ken Goe's avatar

I had a lot of fun covering Chip. Every day, every interview was different. He has good ideas about where Division I college football should go from here.

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John Canzano's avatar

He is a thinker. And so are you!

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Kent Crawford's avatar

Great to see you weighing in and commenting in this forum Ken! I really enjoyed your writing. You are an excellent Journalist!!!! It would be great if JC could give you a guest slot (so to speak now and again.) However, this comment assumes you would even be up for this idea???

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Ole Dame's avatar

Now I really need to make sure I read the comments on JC's stories. I'm just here for the Ken Goe comments. Can we get Buker and Lindsay Schnelll in here too?!

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Grant's dad's avatar

Chips always been the deepest thinker in the room...still is. He's intelligent, bright, quick witted, yet self deprecating.

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jon joseph's avatar

Thank you, JC.

Great thoughts from a guy with a great football mind. I echo Chip's thought when it comes to playing games in the daylight, but even if 64 teams collectively bargain with the media, you will have many late kickoffs.

So, 1 commish. A College Football Network akin to the NFL network, with all games streamed on the network. Kickoffs as determined by the commissioner and his advisers and no ESPN/Fox buying up the product and dictating conference realignment, etc.

No NCAA oversight of big-time CFB and CBB.

Notre Dame? I understand why Chip likes the model, and so do I, but IMO if ND wants to remain independent it should play 13 regular season games with 10 games, at least, vs. today's Power 5.

Thanks again, John, and thank you Chipper.

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Brian M's avatar

Love it! In this model every team would be much more independent, just like NFL teams are (every owner has a giant ego and bows down to no one). Yes, teams are grouped into divisions and so on in order for scheduling, reduced travel and also regional rivalries. ND would be quite comfortable in a Great Lakes division. 64 teams, 8 divisions each, what teams would be in each division? Southwest, Northwest, South Central, Midwest, Great Lakes, Southeast, Mid-Atlantic, Northeast. Fill them in:

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Edward Schwallie's avatar

Are you kidding? NFL teams have no independence as a league with salary caps and single commissioner for all the teams who negotiates media contracts even if they have giant ego owners. They definitely do bow to the NFL commissioner.

My personal guess is when the ACC explodes after their Grant of rights expires (or before if a few ACC schools have their way) there will be 2 conferences, the southern regional SEC with their 2024 16 teams+ Clemson, FSU, UNC, & Miami and one Midwest West Coast BigX conference with their 2024 18 teams plus Notre Dame and Stanford. If that happens there will only be the Power 2 and those 24 extra team your theory propose would be the equal to many of the Group of 5 teams now.

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Brian M's avatar

I have no “theory”. I think the point here according to Kelly’s vision that I agree with is a single commissioner or committee that negotiates a media deal for all of FBS football. That way, the networks can’t pit conferences against each other. So you think every team should go it alone? What a bad idea. That gives even more power to the networks to force teams to undercut each other. The idea is to give up autonomy for financial reasons and agree as a league on self limited caps on NIL and such. NFL divisions have no say over the division teams. That is the comparison. Of course the entire league has to act as one. the role the NCAA has abdicated. Local revenues from stadiums and parking go to the schools. Just like the NFL. Why reinvent the wheel? The NFL has spent 70 years optimizing this business model

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Edward Schwallie's avatar

I never said ND can go it alone and I doubt any other school can do what ND has successfully done staying independent with the partnerships they made over the years (USC, Stanford, Army, Navy, Big East, ACC, NBC, etc). That is why I mentioned that even with ND's influence in the CFB world my guess is they will end up in the Big 10 along with Stanford who they facilitated to the ACC when the ACC loses its big football team draws to the SEC.

I think it's wishful thinking that we can get a single commish for 64 teams which is easy for Chip to say now that UCLA is already in the Big 2. It's not too dissimilar to the theory that Mike Leach pushed to have a 64 team football playoff but he was always at a "have not" school (TTU, WSU, MSU) so it would benefit schools like that the most. My guess is the 20 or so CFB power teams will not let the spoils be shared too broadly (which is why SC left the PAC) so if they combined it will be to leave more teams out and get closer to NFL size.

So sorry I put the 64 team/division theory on you and get your point. I just don't think schools like ND, USC, tOSU, Michigan, Texas, Oklahoma, Bama, Georgia, etc. will limit themselves to be in a small division where teams would play each other twice home & home in one season like the NFL. USC was trying to keep Oregon out of the Big10 and clearly don't even want to play them every year. They have still avoided that with the new Big 10 schedule.

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Brian M's avatar

Looks like you are stuck in your own rhetoric and not giving any consideration to what Chip Kelly actually said. What he said, if you read the post again, is that as a single entity, FBS can easily negotiate $75M a year for 64 schools ($4.8B) which is 25% of what the NFL gets for media per year. That $75M would pay more than enough for football for all 64 schools ($30M per year) and leave another $45M to make all the other sports much more financially healthy. By each conference trying to undermine other conferences that comprise the top 64 programs, there is much less for everyone. So you think Chip does not know what he is talking about? How many years have you been an HC in Div 1 football? Maybe give Chip's very reasoned ideas some thought rather than running down the same rabbit hole as FBS status quo with ESPN and FOX calling all the shots and dismantling college football.

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Edward Schwallie's avatar

I had read it. $75m to 64 schools is a pipe dream, now if its 32 maybe. That has as much probability of success as Leach's 64 team D1 FBS playoff theory.

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Edward Schwallie's avatar

You do know ND does play 9 P5 games this year in the regular season which is the same as every SEC team including #1 Georgia, 1/2 the ACC teams, and several of the P5 teams that play 9 conference games like #2 ranked Michigan, #6 ranked Oklahoma, and even Chip's UCLA this year. That 13th game is limited to 10 possible teams in the Power 5 which is why it has been so difficult for ND to make the 4 team playoff. Next year even if they go undefeated with schedules that annually include teams like tOSU, USC, & Clemson (like this year), they still would be required to play the 1st round game and not get a bye which those 4 Power 5 champions will earn with that 13th game in the Conference championship contest.

So in the future for ND to qualify for the the Final 4 playoffs, my guess is they will most often have played 10 P5 teams before getting there similar to most of the other teams. As my alma mater ND is a force to show that all other sports can be run differently than football and still be successful, I hope they can keep that model for as long as possible.

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Thom Koshinsky's avatar

Frightened Irish value the guaranteed TV exposusure every week om NBC in the prime time slot over he inconveniance of makinf the playoffs or getting a bye Recruiting counts!

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jon joseph's avatar

Ed, great points. But if you are not going to be in a conference and you do not have to play a champ game, then, IMO, you should play 13 regular season games. Upsets happen. See, Marshall.

I expect that when the ACC breaks up, Notre Dame will become a full-time member of the B1G along with UNC. I expect the SEC will add Clemson, FSU, and 2 other teams to also have a complement of 20 teams.

I see no reason to dilute beyond 20 teams each. Even without this, run the 2024 playoff using the current AP with a 5/7 format and accounting for conference realignment and 5 BiG and 3 SEC teams are in the field. (MW Oregon State with the 4th seed with a 1st-round bye.) Notre Dame would not be in the field.

To get some ACC along with NBC money is fine. But come 2026 if ND is not in the Power 2 it will financially be left behind.

Notre Dame has a great tradition but I also question, come 2026, if the Power 2 will be OK with ND's 12-game schedule and I do think that come 2026 the SEC will be playing 9 conference games.

Again, much respect for the Irish.

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Edward Schwallie's avatar

Thanks for the comments. I wish they'd be allowed to play a 13th game and I am sure they'd take it if they could. I also agree ND might to B1G as they already are in the B1G conference in Hockey. I do know UNC certainly would love the B1G and you may be right, but my guess is Stanford will trump them given their top 5 academics to partner with ND. Another point is the current ACC Grant of Rights ends in 2036 which ND has to honor since the only conference they are allowed to go into until then is the ACC. Now if FSU or some other ACC school blow it up then all bets off, but the only good options left for the B1G are tied to this ACC GOR including ND so I don't think that 2026 P2 is a necessity. ND will get an extension of the NBC contract and my reading is they will get at least $50M so may not be too far behind. Since NBC is part of the B1G deal I am sure the language will allow ND to void that contract to get a full share of the B1G spoils if they can leave early from their ACC GOR.

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David Gulickson's avatar

GreatStuff from Coach - wondering if anyone is paying attention, or at least listening?

GO DAWGS

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Vincent L's avatar

Good point.

Go Ducks!

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Larry Tracey's avatar

Chip Kelly was my favorite of all time Oregon football coach and I hated to see him go. He was a perfect fit for Oregon in so many ways. There are coaches who are perfect fits with the perfect staff at one place, but it doesn’t always translate to a new spot when they decide to move on. That was certainly the case with Kelly.

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Steve Setera's avatar

Like him or not, listen to him (this is from a blood runs orange Beaver). How much did he pocket from Philadelphia and from the Niners and still ended up in the good old PAC 12? He’s shrewd, listen to him.

Paul Finebaum said the PAC 12 was the best conference so why did the school heads and one team owner in particular want to destroy the whole thing? Greed!

All working together is more powerful than mine, mine, mine. Maybe they need to go back to kindergarten and listen to their grandparents.

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Jack Glubrecht's avatar

"...one team owner" Hope that's not a reference to Phil Knight. I seriously doubt that he wanted to see the Pac-12 implode. It makes no sene.

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Steve Setera's avatar

The folks in Eugene voted to leave the conference, but the folks in Eugene couldn’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag without guidance from uncle

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Jack Glubrecht's avatar

Spoken like a true beav fan. Should've never hoped for anything else. Want some cheese to go with that whine?

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Drex Heikes's avatar

Yes, as I tell my Beaver brother all the time, I’m sure if Uncle Phil went to OSU instead, you guys would refuse his money and would never listen to him.

Oregon State is the larger school. Find your own insanely successful benefactor.

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Kent Crawford's avatar

Drex, I am a lifelong Beaver, and I am LMAO at your comment. It is so spot on!! I tell my Oregon buddies all the time if you guys don't want PK PLEASE send him our way. Phil and Nike, especially Tinker Hatfield, have been very kind to OSU over the years. You can bet you Duck rear end we would take Phil as one of our own if we had the chance. It is my understanding that Penny Knight started at OSU and then transferred to PSU. Phil and Penny Knight have been great for the entire state of Oregon!!!

Now if we could just get rid of Paul Allen's sister and get PK ownership of the Blazers that would be a great final act for PK!!!

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Drex Heikes's avatar

Root for Beavs every game but one a year--and given all that’s happening, if that game this year would send Beavs to playoffs (and Rose Bowl), I’d change colors. It WAS hard to sit on shuttle bus from Reser last week and hear all the chortling about Oregon’s loss and the obligatory complaining about Uncle Phil. His involvement seems to be what turned Beaver fan base into Oregon haters every game. I don’t remember it being that way before.

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Drex Heikes's avatar

Nice work, JC. Great column. Kelly was a super coach at Oregon and I loved his wise-cracking public persona. Looks like he's more into recruiting now at UCLA than he was at Oregon and from what I saw at Reser last Saturday, UCLA will be formidable in Big 10. They have a great running game, strong defense. Like the Beavs last year, all UCLA needs is a better QB, which they will have next year as Moore matures. For a Duck like me, maybe the only good thing about jumping to the Big 10 is that we get to continue playing the Bruins.

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jon joseph's avatar

Drex, great take. But his HS recruiting is far from a championship level and even with excellent portal picking, he is far away from having a composite Blue Chip roster.

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Drex Heikes's avatar

Good points. He certainly doesn't recruit like Lanning or Cristobal. But he's paying more attention to it, I think.

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jon joseph's avatar

I am reasonably certain that Chip knows when to take a knee.

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Drex Heikes's avatar

:-)

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Cheryl Aker's avatar

Chip Kelly is the ONLY reason we cared about U of O football even though our oldest daughter is an alumni. The way he coached Marcus Mariota and Keanon Lowe was textbook. Too bad NFL players wouldn’t cooperate - of course they don’t have to do anything if they don’t want to. Thank you, John, for this article. Excellent as always!!

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Jen GH's avatar

I’m looking forward to listening to the podcast! I think that Chip can, and should, contribute to finding a solution to the NCAAF’s current state of affairs. I love his idea to negotiate a media deal on behalf of everyone...but today, I don’t think that is possible, because too many schools think they deserve a bigger slice of the pie. He has shown innovation on the field, and obviously has the ability to think outside of the box. His comments on sleep made me LOL. In my house, we don’t have a TV in any bedroom, cause the “primary” reason for a bedroom is sleep! Thanks for sharing these Chipisms John!

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Charles A Roseberry's avatar

Well played, Chip. And well played as usual John in bringing this to us. Thank you. Charlie

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Ben Johnson's avatar

You can generate more games each week because you have 64 teams as opposed to 32 teams. And then take all that money, SHARE IT WITH EVERYBODY. I guarantee each school would make at least $75 million and then that money goes back to the school to run the other sports.”

This in itself is the whole crux of CAPITALISM. Capitalists don't like to share, they view it as communism. There are a lot of things that don't make sense in our world. College football is a microcosm of this war between the wealthy elite and the 99%. It's the same issue, they don't like to share, especially with the masses. They use the masses to gain their wealth but they don't reciprocate. That's the crux of the issue and why it will never change.

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Timothy E Larson's avatar

Thanks Comrade Johnson , Marx would be proud..

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Jerry Goodman's avatar

The last thing you need from me is my opinion. I’ll say again that the Little League has a model to look at. Regional teams have regional play-offs to go to the Williamsport big show to pare down the winners to the final. Most likely this opinion will find itself in the waste basket. Probably too simple. Maybe not

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Michael O. Whitty's avatar

On leaving Oregon for the Eagles, Chip has a selective memory. He knew that the NCAA was going to suspend him for two years, which they did, shortly after he left.

People fault Lanning's play-calling. I wonder if those same people were watching the first two times Chip played Boise State, and vs. Auburn in the NC. Of course any play that didn't work is a bad call, after the play fails.

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Thom Koshinsky's avatar

for me, it's the fact Lanning did the same mistake against the same team 2 years running, it's like he lost then turned around and bet on the instant replay. He also says he'd do the same thing again

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Kent Crawford's avatar

Thanks Drex! I have one son who graduated from OSU and one who is a U of O alumni. Growing up in Portland my HS buddies are pretty much split down the middle. I sense that PK has become a focal point for the frustration of our OSU fan base. The dissolution of the PAC 12 is far bigger than 1 person no matter how influential he may be. Not very realistic but that's the nature of the beast,.

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SCOTT SMITH's avatar

You cannot have NFL-style revenue-sharing in CFB because the two entities aren't set up to compete the same. The NFL begins with a pool of players which are disbursed equally among teams. Each franchise is required by NFL membership to then field competitive teams by investing in their product, which is individually owned but collectively monitored. It doesn't guarantee equal success but it guarantees more equal competitiveness. CFB is not that--they recruit players they want and some schools attract better players than others. Some schools also care much more about the quality of their football product. All of this creates greatly differing value, thus demanding differing revenues. Alabama, say, is not going to accept $75 million alongside Washington St., and their decision-makers should be fired if they did. This isn't Venezuela.

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