Just more self serving chasing the bucks and the illusion that the polls and national championship actually mean something more than a moment in time. The alumni and fans be damned. After 55 years of bleeding Green and Gold (or whatever new color Nike comes up with) my response to the question, “What do you think of the new coach?”, is, “When is he going to announce that he is moving to a different school?”
I guess none of this should surprise, but if I am being honest, it hurts. The Pac 12 really is The Conference of Champions and it's research profile is R1 across the footprint. This feels like your girlfriend (or boyfriend) just took up with a colleague who drives a Porsche and has a nicer house than you.
Well it’s not like a good program is leaving. Those two have one Pac 12 FB championship between them since 2008 and exactly one basketball championship. Be like SEC saying goodbye to Vandy. But how does this not hurt their recruiting? Those two schools by accident have tremendous recruiting advantage of being in one of three best recruiting regions in nation. Now they open door to Big 10 to recruit in So Cal. And will compensate by flying to Big 10 country for recruits? ? So welcome to same plight as the other 10
schools in conference. No more recruiting by getting in car to drive half hour. The real beauty part: they can’t beat Oregon or Stanford or Arizona. So go to Big 10 and play Ohio State and Michigan for championships. Brilliant.
It makes so much sense for USC I don't see any roadblock that reasonable minds could offer. This is a $ decision and who can blame them? It's what CFB is now--a quasi-professional sport. Why get left behind with TV revenue/exposure that is closely tied with NIL? The only complainers will be hard-core traditionalists or USC haters.
Jul 1, 2022·edited Jul 1, 2022Liked by John Canzano
Solutions:
1. Bring in Nebraska and Wisconsin from the Big 10
or
2. Bring in Baylor and Texas Tech or TCU from the Big 12
or
3. Bring in Boise State and San Diego State from the Mtn West
All these options bring in better schools than the ones leaving. F*$! LA.....nobody liked them anyway.
Whatever we do I hope we don't leave the Pac 12. If we do then I am out....in fact I am almost out as it stands anyway. If we leave I hope many join me in this boycott of college sports.
Can we lay the blame for this at the feet of Limo Larry Scott and the conference CEO Group? The Pac-12 Network is a joke compared to Big Ten/SEC Networks. Pac-12 after dark isn't working. I feel for George Kliavkoff. Great hire but will he stay if USC/UCLA/Washington/Oregon jump ship? And what becomes of the Pac-12 & the schools left behind? College football & basketball are just the minor leagues of the NFL/NBA. Do away with all the conferences and let the pros run the show.
Well, I don’t like the sound this at all but I’m with you leave it as it is. Stop messing with what’s always worked for us…but then I realize change isn’t always a bad thing but in this case LEAVE IT ALONE!
My institutional memory is weak but my personal memory isn't. Having grown up in LA--you were a USC or UCLA fan from the day you could make up your mind--and following the Ducks, et al, since moving to Oregon in 1972, the idea "we" would join hands with the ultimate enemy, the Big10, is beyond belief. Why not have the PAC 12 invite Ohio State to join the PAC 12? What is going on?
What about a merger of the conferences? Along with the ACC, the Big10 and the Pac12 forged a strange agreement that basically said we're BFFs, and might play each other. What if they were to merge? Wouldn't you think this would be the next logical move?
Sure the former commissioner shares a large part of the blame for the PAC 12 falling out of the CFB limelight. But neither USC nor UCLA have done the PAC 12 or themselves any favors the last many years. Now that they are finally getting somewhat barely on track they want to bolt to the B1G?
So. We're back to the PAC-10? Weird.
Happen to be re reading "Brave New World"... Somehow it still resonates. "Oh Ford!"
I fervently hope this move of USC -UCLA to the Big Ten never materializes, and that tradition loving heads will prevail.
Just more self serving chasing the bucks and the illusion that the polls and national championship actually mean something more than a moment in time. The alumni and fans be damned. After 55 years of bleeding Green and Gold (or whatever new color Nike comes up with) my response to the question, “What do you think of the new coach?”, is, “When is he going to announce that he is moving to a different school?”
I guess none of this should surprise, but if I am being honest, it hurts. The Pac 12 really is The Conference of Champions and it's research profile is R1 across the footprint. This feels like your girlfriend (or boyfriend) just took up with a colleague who drives a Porsche and has a nicer house than you.
Well it’s not like a good program is leaving. Those two have one Pac 12 FB championship between them since 2008 and exactly one basketball championship. Be like SEC saying goodbye to Vandy. But how does this not hurt their recruiting? Those two schools by accident have tremendous recruiting advantage of being in one of three best recruiting regions in nation. Now they open door to Big 10 to recruit in So Cal. And will compensate by flying to Big 10 country for recruits? ? So welcome to same plight as the other 10
schools in conference. No more recruiting by getting in car to drive half hour. The real beauty part: they can’t beat Oregon or Stanford or Arizona. So go to Big 10 and play Ohio State and Michigan for championships. Brilliant.
It makes so much sense for USC I don't see any roadblock that reasonable minds could offer. This is a $ decision and who can blame them? It's what CFB is now--a quasi-professional sport. Why get left behind with TV revenue/exposure that is closely tied with NIL? The only complainers will be hard-core traditionalists or USC haters.
Solutions:
1. Bring in Nebraska and Wisconsin from the Big 10
or
2. Bring in Baylor and Texas Tech or TCU from the Big 12
or
3. Bring in Boise State and San Diego State from the Mtn West
All these options bring in better schools than the ones leaving. F*$! LA.....nobody liked them anyway.
Whatever we do I hope we don't leave the Pac 12. If we do then I am out....in fact I am almost out as it stands anyway. If we leave I hope many join me in this boycott of college sports.
I am sorry to say this and could be wrong, USC and UCLA…BYE
Grass is always greener…
I don’t see anything good coming out of this!
Can we lay the blame for this at the feet of Limo Larry Scott and the conference CEO Group? The Pac-12 Network is a joke compared to Big Ten/SEC Networks. Pac-12 after dark isn't working. I feel for George Kliavkoff. Great hire but will he stay if USC/UCLA/Washington/Oregon jump ship? And what becomes of the Pac-12 & the schools left behind? College football & basketball are just the minor leagues of the NFL/NBA. Do away with all the conferences and let the pros run the show.
Poor OSU and Washington State. No moola to grab courtesy of the mega schools. Maybe go to no helmets or fire hoops to try to keep up.
Well, I don’t like the sound this at all but I’m with you leave it as it is. Stop messing with what’s always worked for us…but then I realize change isn’t always a bad thing but in this case LEAVE IT ALONE!
My institutional memory is weak but my personal memory isn't. Having grown up in LA--you were a USC or UCLA fan from the day you could make up your mind--and following the Ducks, et al, since moving to Oregon in 1972, the idea "we" would join hands with the ultimate enemy, the Big10, is beyond belief. Why not have the PAC 12 invite Ohio State to join the PAC 12? What is going on?
What about a merger of the conferences? Along with the ACC, the Big10 and the Pac12 forged a strange agreement that basically said we're BFFs, and might play each other. What if they were to merge? Wouldn't you think this would be the next logical move?
Sure the former commissioner shares a large part of the blame for the PAC 12 falling out of the CFB limelight. But neither USC nor UCLA have done the PAC 12 or themselves any favors the last many years. Now that they are finally getting somewhat barely on track they want to bolt to the B1G?