I would counter to Bob Thompson that unlike his NFL comparison, it is personal to Fox vs ESPN. They genuinely hate one another and every move is pointed at a way to put the other out of business.
It isn't FOX vs CBS in the NFl because neither network can urge Seattle to move from one division to another. But, FOX and ESPN did just that in USC/UCLA to the B1G 10 and Texas/Oklahoma to the SEC. Something like that cannot happen in the NFL. But, it can in the college game and they did it.. So, it's FOX vs ESPN whether the networks like hearing that or not.
Yesterdays thinking - does not mesh with the fiscal progress that has been made due to brand growth. The NCAA did this to you not the schools or the players. They refused to acknowlege the most obvious element(s) of the equation that forced their hand.
Indianapolis Greed & Lust For Control from the desk of Mark Emmert.
The new returns show that Emmert was credited with $2.99 million in total compensation during the 2020 calendar year, including $2.58 million in base salary. March Madness revenue represents more than 85% of the NCAA's roughly $1.2 BILLION in income, funding the governing body's business.
You cant pay college coaches 8M per year & then state there's not enough money for the athletes whom do the real work. Nobody is selling Chemistry Gowns in their campus bookstore. However they sell the shit out of player jerseys that are without a doubt a likeness of the individual.
I don't see the benefit here. If Fox wants to, they can slot a 7:30 PST game featuring Penn State at USC. Doesn't make sense for PSU, but it would destroy ratings for that time slot. And add a fourth game to the menu.
Not to mention, there are going to be very, very few eyeballs watching the PAC12 before 7:30. Unless of course, five teams start beating the elite BIG10 and SEC schools.
Talk about interest waning in the PAC12, this doesn't seem appetizing at all. Who is going to care about the conference in two thirds of the country? Utah better best Florida this year, and Oregon better scare Georgia. Otherwise I see a slow descent towards G5 status.
Sounds like Thompson is up past his bed time. This is nothing like the NFL. Big Ten didn’t want to play second fiddle to the SEC; Fox knows ESPN’s woke turn & streaming mistakes have cost the former Worldwide Leader influence and audience.
And I don’t see how this is good for the Pac. Fox and ESPN are splitting the world, and Kliavkoff’s best hope was for a rights share between the two.
Jon, you are correct. "it is just business". And ther is almost nothing good about that. CFB and the NCAA has worked for decades to try and keep the many programs included. Those days are gone. The 130 "D-1" crowd will soon be about 60-75 with revenue coming mostly from two sources. Nothing free market about any of this. The big near monopoly conferences and networks will call the shots and eliminate / shove aside a lot of our programs.
I'd love to have The Worldwide Leaders full attention but I will have to see it before I believe the report of them being shut out of B1G. I reckon it is posturing for cabbage.
Kinda liking the emails. - I am reading them - might have to show love and financially support you. I was a Oregon Wrestler and honestly do not like the way big revenue sports like Football have shifted to minor league pro setups. But with the way youth sports parents are it only going to get more stupid. Stupid as in kids performing and focusing on Sports to get to D1 and play a few years. Hopefully, getting an education in the process. I have found that the man makes the cash and the athlete is left holding the bag.
As for Bob Thompson's tweet, I don't believe he's making an apples-to-apples comparison. In the NFL, all 32 teams split the TV revenues evenly. That is obviously not the case in college football. There is absolutely competition among the conferences for who can get the most revenue, and I have to believe that competition extends to their network partners who invest in their product.
If true, I see this news as good & bad for the Pac.
Good: As you state, John, ESPN being left out means they will have plenty of motivation and money to get at least some of the Pac.
Bad: I was really hoping one of the OTA broadcast networks would be interested in the Pac. Assuming both CBS and NBC will have a piece of the Big Ten, it seems unlikely they will want more. That also means no one in traditional media is likely to be bidding against ESPN.
"But this era of college football appears to be the place where traditions go to die."
I think it's why I'm having a hard time enjoying much of any of this..
We seem to be watching "paid car accidents", where we just destroy everything that was loved, for a paycheck
I would counter to Bob Thompson that unlike his NFL comparison, it is personal to Fox vs ESPN. They genuinely hate one another and every move is pointed at a way to put the other out of business.
It isn't FOX vs CBS in the NFl because neither network can urge Seattle to move from one division to another. But, FOX and ESPN did just that in USC/UCLA to the B1G 10 and Texas/Oklahoma to the SEC. Something like that cannot happen in the NFL. But, it can in the college game and they did it.. So, it's FOX vs ESPN whether the networks like hearing that or not.
Blame the NCAA themselves!
Yesterdays thinking - does not mesh with the fiscal progress that has been made due to brand growth. The NCAA did this to you not the schools or the players. They refused to acknowlege the most obvious element(s) of the equation that forced their hand.
Indianapolis Greed & Lust For Control from the desk of Mark Emmert.
The new returns show that Emmert was credited with $2.99 million in total compensation during the 2020 calendar year, including $2.58 million in base salary. March Madness revenue represents more than 85% of the NCAA's roughly $1.2 BILLION in income, funding the governing body's business.
You cant pay college coaches 8M per year & then state there's not enough money for the athletes whom do the real work. Nobody is selling Chemistry Gowns in their campus bookstore. However they sell the shit out of player jerseys that are without a doubt a likeness of the individual.
Nameplate or Not.
I don't see the benefit here. If Fox wants to, they can slot a 7:30 PST game featuring Penn State at USC. Doesn't make sense for PSU, but it would destroy ratings for that time slot. And add a fourth game to the menu.
Not to mention, there are going to be very, very few eyeballs watching the PAC12 before 7:30. Unless of course, five teams start beating the elite BIG10 and SEC schools.
Talk about interest waning in the PAC12, this doesn't seem appetizing at all. Who is going to care about the conference in two thirds of the country? Utah better best Florida this year, and Oregon better scare Georgia. Otherwise I see a slow descent towards G5 status.
Well done
Sounds like Thompson is up past his bed time. This is nothing like the NFL. Big Ten didn’t want to play second fiddle to the SEC; Fox knows ESPN’s woke turn & streaming mistakes have cost the former Worldwide Leader influence and audience.
And I don’t see how this is good for the Pac. Fox and ESPN are splitting the world, and Kliavkoff’s best hope was for a rights share between the two.
Jon, you are correct. "it is just business". And ther is almost nothing good about that. CFB and the NCAA has worked for decades to try and keep the many programs included. Those days are gone. The 130 "D-1" crowd will soon be about 60-75 with revenue coming mostly from two sources. Nothing free market about any of this. The big near monopoly conferences and networks will call the shots and eliminate / shove aside a lot of our programs.
There is that "is just business" line again...
Businesses are not tax exempt, and very soon athletics will not be as well.
Wait and see how much fun these states have with taxes on athletics events as well as what the fees will be requiring.
They are only really earning more money for the government to waste.
Hardly anyone will be interested in NFL Jr.
So excited foe new traditions things change.
Give me oregon at Penn st...Michigan at udub over playing oregon st wazzu and Colorado
I'd love to have The Worldwide Leaders full attention but I will have to see it before I believe the report of them being shut out of B1G. I reckon it is posturing for cabbage.
So Clemson wins the ACC and are in the Top 4 of the playoff rankings and they now have to play an extra game against Oregon or Utah in Las Vegas?!?!
Kinda liking the emails. - I am reading them - might have to show love and financially support you. I was a Oregon Wrestler and honestly do not like the way big revenue sports like Football have shifted to minor league pro setups. But with the way youth sports parents are it only going to get more stupid. Stupid as in kids performing and focusing on Sports to get to D1 and play a few years. Hopefully, getting an education in the process. I have found that the man makes the cash and the athlete is left holding the bag.
As for Bob Thompson's tweet, I don't believe he's making an apples-to-apples comparison. In the NFL, all 32 teams split the TV revenues evenly. That is obviously not the case in college football. There is absolutely competition among the conferences for who can get the most revenue, and I have to believe that competition extends to their network partners who invest in their product.
Big 10 signs $350 million deal with CBS: https://thespun.com/college-football/how-much-cbs-will-reportedly-pay-big-ten-revealed?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=NFLdraftmaverick&fs=e&s=cl
If true, I see this news as good & bad for the Pac.
Good: As you state, John, ESPN being left out means they will have plenty of motivation and money to get at least some of the Pac.
Bad: I was really hoping one of the OTA broadcast networks would be interested in the Pac. Assuming both CBS and NBC will have a piece of the Big Ten, it seems unlikely they will want more. That also means no one in traditional media is likely to be bidding against ESPN.