Apr 20, 2023·edited Apr 20, 2023Liked by John Canzano
6 In and 6 Out for Coach Smith and the Beavers. That says it all. The least churn in all the Pac-12, by far. Stability in college football programs is the key to success.
Really love college football, but I am kinda starting to not like it. Hopefully, with counseling (tailgating) there won't be a divorce in the future on my part.
Apr 20, 2023·edited Apr 20, 2023Liked by John Canzano
Fantastic - I've been looking everywhere for something like this on the portal - thank you for the spreadsheet and story, J.C.
A couple of thoughts...first, I agree with Dickert - the second transfer period is ridiculous. It's not like the December period allows players only milliseconds to make a decision. Dickert is correct and I'm glad he expressed himself. And, no, it's not sour grapes - it's an opinion from a head coach and he makes complete sense. BTW - where's the NCAA? What a feckless organization - they look like deer caught in the headlights on the entire NIL and portal issues. No leadership whatsoever - Larry Scott would fit right in.
Finally, for a few posters who are wringing their hands - both in anxiety (Ducks fans) and outright glee at Oregon's impending doom (all other fans) - pump the brakes a little about Oregon's outbound portal numbers. Lanning is building his own team with its own identity with players he wants...not simply players he inherited. I'm not one bit worried about Oregon's outbound numbers...in fact, I think it's a huge positive - I want a head coach and staff that have a vision for their team and an identity they want to mold vs. the alternative.
The number of players harmed by an unexpected transfer is far smaller than the number of players helped by having the freedom to respond to coaching changes and other curveballs life has thrown them.
Why are we fooling around with this subterfuge? Put all college players that want to move teams into a big pool and hold a draft for them.
Since this no longer has anything to do with education, lets just have each team from the ESPN or Fox League (Pac-10 can still participate on Apple TV) make a monetary offer for all the players in the draft; The reality is that these "student-athletes" (hahaha) are nothing more than employees of teams that rent the name of the school to draw fans on TV, and the few folks that can afford to go to a game whose time is now conveniently TBD for ratings purposes only.
A player can then receive a counter offer from the minor league team that currently holds his rights, and decide to stay or go based on his NIL earnings or what the "school" will pay him. This could be done whenever it is convenient for Fox and ESPN to broadcast the draft from Las Vegas, say from the new A's stadium. Gamblers could also get onto Fan Duel for some serious gambling on what team the kid will go to...works for me!
Agreed they should ditch the spring portal. Some stability is vital and I don"t think bolting in spring is an option that benefits any program at any level.
So different from the 'good old days' when TEAM meant far more than ME and if you didn't start you stayed and competed as hard as could. But I recognize that any number of athletes transfer at the encouragement of their coaches. I feel sorry for portal people who enter the portal and cannot find a scholarship elsewhere.
I believe the SEC is the only remaining P5 conference that will not grant immediate eligibility to any player who enters the portal later than February 1st. If challenged in this day and age I expect a player who declares in the spring and wants to transfer from one SEC school to another would if the matter was litigated, receive a stay and ultimately prevail if the litigation was not settled.
It's all about players' rights today and I do not see the rights being reined in without an agreement between a players union and 'management.' Therein lies the rub. Who or what is 'management' and can players form a union without being 'employees?'
If players receive employee status the calculus of college sports will be significantly altered.
Not spot on, but somewhat related. ESPN app had a nice story today on how happy Bo Nix is to have passed on the draft and be playing another year of college ball at Oregon. My question is, how much money is Bo collecting on the side deal this year? Anyone know? Is it enough to cover his new wife Izzy's first class airfare from Auburn (she is a senior) to Eugene (he plays QB there); or does she get dibs on Uncle Phil's Gulfstream? Anyone know anything about this "rare air" in the whole portal deal? Just askin'. Charlie
The most interesting thing about the spring portal is the potential espionage. If I were Coach Prime, I would land a transfer from every team in the Pac-12. Maybe you don't end up with any good intel, but if you do, it could make a difference in a close game.
6 In and 6 Out for Coach Smith and the Beavers. That says it all. The least churn in all the Pac-12, by far. Stability in college football programs is the key to success.
I would like to see one window in January. Move one out a little, close the other.
DONE
...nailed it.
I was walking my bulldog past Autzen Stadium and I swear it got sucked into the transfer portal. I just heard it signed with Georgia.
Really love college football, but I am kinda starting to not like it. Hopefully, with counseling (tailgating) there won't be a divorce in the future on my part.
Smith has great stability on his staff and among the players. He’s doing a great job at OSU.
Fantastic - I've been looking everywhere for something like this on the portal - thank you for the spreadsheet and story, J.C.
A couple of thoughts...first, I agree with Dickert - the second transfer period is ridiculous. It's not like the December period allows players only milliseconds to make a decision. Dickert is correct and I'm glad he expressed himself. And, no, it's not sour grapes - it's an opinion from a head coach and he makes complete sense. BTW - where's the NCAA? What a feckless organization - they look like deer caught in the headlights on the entire NIL and portal issues. No leadership whatsoever - Larry Scott would fit right in.
Finally, for a few posters who are wringing their hands - both in anxiety (Ducks fans) and outright glee at Oregon's impending doom (all other fans) - pump the brakes a little about Oregon's outbound portal numbers. Lanning is building his own team with its own identity with players he wants...not simply players he inherited. I'm not one bit worried about Oregon's outbound numbers...in fact, I think it's a huge positive - I want a head coach and staff that have a vision for their team and an identity they want to mold vs. the alternative.
The number of players harmed by an unexpected transfer is far smaller than the number of players helped by having the freedom to respond to coaching changes and other curveballs life has thrown them.
Why are we fooling around with this subterfuge? Put all college players that want to move teams into a big pool and hold a draft for them.
Since this no longer has anything to do with education, lets just have each team from the ESPN or Fox League (Pac-10 can still participate on Apple TV) make a monetary offer for all the players in the draft; The reality is that these "student-athletes" (hahaha) are nothing more than employees of teams that rent the name of the school to draw fans on TV, and the few folks that can afford to go to a game whose time is now conveniently TBD for ratings purposes only.
A player can then receive a counter offer from the minor league team that currently holds his rights, and decide to stay or go based on his NIL earnings or what the "school" will pay him. This could be done whenever it is convenient for Fox and ESPN to broadcast the draft from Las Vegas, say from the new A's stadium. Gamblers could also get onto Fan Duel for some serious gambling on what team the kid will go to...works for me!
Yes, one window and one transfer. Not one per year!
Agreed they should ditch the spring portal. Some stability is vital and I don"t think bolting in spring is an option that benefits any program at any level.
Yup, Coach Dickert summed it up perfectly; “I think it’s ridiculous to be honest with you,”
We’re not in Kansas anymore...
GO DAWGS
Thanks, JC for a look at the portal.
So different from the 'good old days' when TEAM meant far more than ME and if you didn't start you stayed and competed as hard as could. But I recognize that any number of athletes transfer at the encouragement of their coaches. I feel sorry for portal people who enter the portal and cannot find a scholarship elsewhere.
I believe the SEC is the only remaining P5 conference that will not grant immediate eligibility to any player who enters the portal later than February 1st. If challenged in this day and age I expect a player who declares in the spring and wants to transfer from one SEC school to another would if the matter was litigated, receive a stay and ultimately prevail if the litigation was not settled.
It's all about players' rights today and I do not see the rights being reined in without an agreement between a players union and 'management.' Therein lies the rub. Who or what is 'management' and can players form a union without being 'employees?'
If players receive employee status the calculus of college sports will be significantly altered.
The grass is not always greener, right?
Not spot on, but somewhat related. ESPN app had a nice story today on how happy Bo Nix is to have passed on the draft and be playing another year of college ball at Oregon. My question is, how much money is Bo collecting on the side deal this year? Anyone know? Is it enough to cover his new wife Izzy's first class airfare from Auburn (she is a senior) to Eugene (he plays QB there); or does she get dibs on Uncle Phil's Gulfstream? Anyone know anything about this "rare air" in the whole portal deal? Just askin'. Charlie
The most interesting thing about the spring portal is the potential espionage. If I were Coach Prime, I would land a transfer from every team in the Pac-12. Maybe you don't end up with any good intel, but if you do, it could make a difference in a close game.
So I went to Google - the numbers thrown around there for Bo Nix ranged from $232,000 last year to $600,00 to $2,500.000 this year. Shazam! Charlie
Greetings fellow tribe members. Is it something I said? Charlie. Lively discussion, however.