At the end of the day 65-7 is still 65-7 and I don’t see any of the remaining big 12 teams (excluding OK and TX) sniffing at the upper echelon of recruiting rankings. In order to break the SEC stranglehold on the sport that’s what’s required. Clemson has the template. I really think some sort of PAC ACC alignment would be enormously beneficial to both and media friendly on that front.
People are working 50-60 hours a week, after family, there's a limited amount of time. People don't have the time to watch as often as the media needs.
Thanks, John. But the Pac-20 that should have happened before being shot down by USC's president Carol Folt should already have put the B12 and the hire of Yarmack, whose aggressiveness I admire, to sleep.
We should be living in a Power 4 and not a Power 5 world with the Pac-20 in the driver's seat.
I believe you that Fox is not a player, but their future rights deals with the Big 10, Big 12 and Mountain West leave them with roughly 15 fewer games than they have broadcast on Fox and FS1 the last couple of years.
Good interview. My dad always preached to us that the early bird catches the worm . Zig Ziegler was a ,aster at door to door sales and sales training, his motto was timid salesmen have skinny kids. Sadly I think the BIG 12 conference hired the right guy and we didn't. Not only didn't Georgia boy get the worm, he hasn't gotten any worms yet and it's midnight. And his sales skills are extremely questionable to non existent. Brett did what should have been natural for George, understand the landscape, the trends and got his foot and sales presentation in before the sun came up. I would bet $100 that George is being laughed at behind his back by the other commissioners.
You both hit on it in your recap… he is a salesman.
And a salesman who has no interest in selling but himself Of the 35 minute show, 30 minutes was him talking and not till the 20 minute mark was student athletic mentioned…the all important person / people he is forgetting
My take away from his talk is a more polished Larry Scott who will do more slash and burn of the college football landscape. If George got hoodwink by the Big10 taking SC and UCLA… watch out
The problem with this snake is he has nowhere to go, whereas Kevin Warren was long tagged as either an NFL team president/managing partner or a potential Goodell replacement. Yormark is too sleazy to get Adam Silver's job, so he's likely to hang around and continue to poison what's left of the goodwill in college sports.
Yormark is only doing his job properly. I'm not sure how you would like him to go about doing what's best for the BigXII differently. I think we all are forgetting Yormark was the one who got the biggest sponsorship deal in sports history signed with NASCAR, helped move and rebrand the Brooklyn Nets, and build Roc Nation into its current iteration. Many could actually conclude he took a step down from those lofty successes to run the BigXII, but I believe he has a very innovative mind that likes new and different challenges, and who has been successful everywhere he's ever been. Name me one thing from his prior stints that leads us to believe he is a ruthless destroyer of others for personal gain? We've not seen that, and I don't believe he will purposely desolve the Pac12 or any other conference purposely. He will do what's best for the BigXII, and if what the BigXII has become looks advantageous for schools to make a move, that's on them and their current conference for not being in good positions. That's exactly where the Pac12 finds themselves currently. Their two biggest draws have left and their leadership hasn't made moves to offset that like the BigXII already has. Their finances are a shambles (more than half of the schools left have athletic departments that are grossly in the red), and they have no route to profitability or recovery currently. The Pac12 has no one to blame but themselves, and you can't blame the BigXII or Yormark for any of their woes.
I have watched college sports since the sixties. My brother was a Giant Killer and I followed a few years later to “tumble away” with Andros..
I find NIL, head hunting players and teams troubling. Just like Little League stacking players to win or select teams formed to gain Wins vs Losses…
In the end for many schools, 85 football players fund the sports scene at most schools. Baseball suffers, basketball bounces up and down, minor sports starve and the media and promoters harvest the money.
Meanwhile, i will head to surgery to get my 5th joint replaced from dedicating my body for the promoters!
LOL. This is the a big lie. BigXII has been rated #1 for 7 of the last 10 years. They've been ranked 1st or 2nd for 11 years straight. Hell, you have to go back 15 years for the BigXII to be ranked 4th, and that's the last time they were ranked behind the ACC. The ACC being the best ended long ago. They've been top heavy for the last 2 decades. Even when Kansas was winning 14 in a row, the rest of the BigXII was nails. (I'll tell you a little secret. Part of KU's success is because it has to go through the gauntlet that is the BigXII.) The BigXII is going to continue to be great with the additions next year of Houston, Cincinnati, and BYU. Next time do some research and save yourself the embarassment.
SO you're good a basketball...nobody cares. College basketball as a product gets worse every year. It's almost like watching the WNBA...Sorry, not really watchable either unless your daughter is on the team. This deal revolves around football...that's it!
Hey Taterman, still smarting over Roy ditching KU I see. Did you get picked on at school or were you the bully? Hard to determine where your insecurities lay. No need to be a douche in the comments.
First, why would I be upset about Roy leaving for his alma matter and then watching Bill Self take KU to another level for 20 years. That lacks any logic whatsoever. However, I won't apologize for pointing out how ludicrous the statement "ACC is best at basketball" is and how wrong people have been about the value of basketball in college sports. The value of the men's, and now women's, basketball has continued to climb year after year. The NCAA basketball tournaments wouldn't draw the viewers and the media buy numbers they do if they weren't popular. So, just pointing out real facts instead of flippant commentary that comes from talking head media types.
Still wanting to find out how to ask how to ask a question in the hopes it ends up in the mailbag. I don't tweet, so if that's the only way, l guess l'm SOL
Call him a slick salesman or whatever, but dude seems sharp. He read the market, his programs' needs and got probably the best deal he could for his conference - despite Wilner thinking going early left money on the table. And if you listen to the latest episode of Marchand and Ourand Sports Media Podcast (ep 74) it is sounding worse and worse for the Pac's media deal. Basically ESPN is the only one wanting significant inventory, but they are watching their pennies, and Amazon only wants the top weekly game. Once again it is looking like the bumbling, stumbling Pac is coming up last. Uggh
At the end of the day 65-7 is still 65-7 and I don’t see any of the remaining big 12 teams (excluding OK and TX) sniffing at the upper echelon of recruiting rankings. In order to break the SEC stranglehold on the sport that’s what’s required. Clemson has the template. I really think some sort of PAC ACC alignment would be enormously beneficial to both and media friendly on that front.
Sorry John, Yormark is a worm! I wouldn’t believe anything he says or trust him in any way!!
People are working 50-60 hours a week, after family, there's a limited amount of time. People don't have the time to watch as often as the media needs.
Dude is slick, smart, and crafty. PAC12 is under the microscope right now. A home run is needed to get the college world to hush up.
I bet he has a couple bridges he'd like to sell you
totally
There's a lot of BS going around.
Sniff sniff HASNAKE!!! sniff sniff. Oops need to clean my nose.
Thanks, John. But the Pac-20 that should have happened before being shot down by USC's president Carol Folt should already have put the B12 and the hire of Yarmack, whose aggressiveness I admire, to sleep.
We should be living in a Power 4 and not a Power 5 world with the Pac-20 in the driver's seat.
Call me when the Pac deal is done. It is being reported that CBS and Turner have left the table and the deals are in the mire.
...Uhh...
Were CBS and Turner serious contenders? It would have been news to me that they were even at the table.
Nothing burgers all over this one.
Call me when the Pac deal is done.
CBS and Turner were not players. Nor is Fox, really. ESPN/Amazon are.
I think the deal is done, except for some margin work.
CBS clearly did not prevail. Turner has not broadcast football for decades ...no real loss there.
I do think Fox is going to have a serious problem paying it's bills. Pay tv rates have to go up, and that loses subs.
Retransmission fees are already high for OTA channels. It's a matter of time before this system crashes.
RSNs are in bankruptcy.
I believe you that Fox is not a player, but their future rights deals with the Big 10, Big 12 and Mountain West leave them with roughly 15 fewer games than they have broadcast on Fox and FS1 the last couple of years.
Good interview. My dad always preached to us that the early bird catches the worm . Zig Ziegler was a ,aster at door to door sales and sales training, his motto was timid salesmen have skinny kids. Sadly I think the BIG 12 conference hired the right guy and we didn't. Not only didn't Georgia boy get the worm, he hasn't gotten any worms yet and it's midnight. And his sales skills are extremely questionable to non existent. Brett did what should have been natural for George, understand the landscape, the trends and got his foot and sales presentation in before the sun came up. I would bet $100 that George is being laughed at behind his back by the other commissioners.
You've made up your mind without knowing what the deal is. Very short sided.
Name one positive indicator that has come out?
You both hit on it in your recap… he is a salesman.
And a salesman who has no interest in selling but himself Of the 35 minute show, 30 minutes was him talking and not till the 20 minute mark was student athletic mentioned…the all important person / people he is forgetting
My take away from his talk is a more polished Larry Scott who will do more slash and burn of the college football landscape. If George got hoodwink by the Big10 taking SC and UCLA… watch out
The problem with this snake is he has nowhere to go, whereas Kevin Warren was long tagged as either an NFL team president/managing partner or a potential Goodell replacement. Yormark is too sleazy to get Adam Silver's job, so he's likely to hang around and continue to poison what's left of the goodwill in college sports.
Yormark is only doing his job properly. I'm not sure how you would like him to go about doing what's best for the BigXII differently. I think we all are forgetting Yormark was the one who got the biggest sponsorship deal in sports history signed with NASCAR, helped move and rebrand the Brooklyn Nets, and build Roc Nation into its current iteration. Many could actually conclude he took a step down from those lofty successes to run the BigXII, but I believe he has a very innovative mind that likes new and different challenges, and who has been successful everywhere he's ever been. Name me one thing from his prior stints that leads us to believe he is a ruthless destroyer of others for personal gain? We've not seen that, and I don't believe he will purposely desolve the Pac12 or any other conference purposely. He will do what's best for the BigXII, and if what the BigXII has become looks advantageous for schools to make a move, that's on them and their current conference for not being in good positions. That's exactly where the Pac12 finds themselves currently. Their two biggest draws have left and their leadership hasn't made moves to offset that like the BigXII already has. Their finances are a shambles (more than half of the schools left have athletic departments that are grossly in the red), and they have no route to profitability or recovery currently. The Pac12 has no one to blame but themselves, and you can't blame the BigXII or Yormark for any of their woes.
I see Yormark's information ops team has landed on Canzano's site now, too. Gotta give the guy credit for bringing a new approach to the job.
@JoeDelaney In all aspects of life, its good to look in the mirror first before blaming anyone else for your problems.
I don’t think college basketball is undervalued, au contraire, I think it is fairly valued to overvalued. One and done hurts.
I have watched college sports since the sixties. My brother was a Giant Killer and I followed a few years later to “tumble away” with Andros..
I find NIL, head hunting players and teams troubling. Just like Little League stacking players to win or select teams formed to gain Wins vs Losses…
In the end for many schools, 85 football players fund the sports scene at most schools. Baseball suffers, basketball bounces up and down, minor sports starve and the media and promoters harvest the money.
Meanwhile, i will head to surgery to get my 5th joint replaced from dedicating my body for the promoters!
Jdc
Ha! I love that he thinks they are No. 1 in college basketball. The don’t come close to the ACC. I guess that’s the “sales” part.
It's not that hard to look up conference strength. Big 12 is #1, Pac12.... #7 ouch! https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/rpi-ranking/rpi-rating-by-conf#:~:text=NCAA%20College%20Basketball%20RPI%20Rankings%20%26%20Ratings%202023,%20%204%20%2029%20more%20rows%20
LOL. This is the a big lie. BigXII has been rated #1 for 7 of the last 10 years. They've been ranked 1st or 2nd for 11 years straight. Hell, you have to go back 15 years for the BigXII to be ranked 4th, and that's the last time they were ranked behind the ACC. The ACC being the best ended long ago. They've been top heavy for the last 2 decades. Even when Kansas was winning 14 in a row, the rest of the BigXII was nails. (I'll tell you a little secret. Part of KU's success is because it has to go through the gauntlet that is the BigXII.) The BigXII is going to continue to be great with the additions next year of Houston, Cincinnati, and BYU. Next time do some research and save yourself the embarassment.
SO you're good a basketball...nobody cares. College basketball as a product gets worse every year. It's almost like watching the WNBA...Sorry, not really watchable either unless your daughter is on the team. This deal revolves around football...that's it!
The NCAA basketball tournament draws media rights value of over $1B a year. I don't think your statement is anywhere near accurate.
Hey Taterman, still smarting over Roy ditching KU I see. Did you get picked on at school or were you the bully? Hard to determine where your insecurities lay. No need to be a douche in the comments.
First, why would I be upset about Roy leaving for his alma matter and then watching Bill Self take KU to another level for 20 years. That lacks any logic whatsoever. However, I won't apologize for pointing out how ludicrous the statement "ACC is best at basketball" is and how wrong people have been about the value of basketball in college sports. The value of the men's, and now women's, basketball has continued to climb year after year. The NCAA basketball tournaments wouldn't draw the viewers and the media buy numbers they do if they weren't popular. So, just pointing out real facts instead of flippant commentary that comes from talking head media types.
Streaming is the future of college sports along with remote broadcasting which I don't
have a problem with, I just want to watch the game. That's what the Pac needs to pursue
and would put them at the forefront of the next generation of media rights.
Still wanting to find out how to ask how to ask a question in the hopes it ends up in the mailbag. I don't tweet, so if that's the only way, l guess l'm SOL
Call him a slick salesman or whatever, but dude seems sharp. He read the market, his programs' needs and got probably the best deal he could for his conference - despite Wilner thinking going early left money on the table. And if you listen to the latest episode of Marchand and Ourand Sports Media Podcast (ep 74) it is sounding worse and worse for the Pac's media deal. Basically ESPN is the only one wanting significant inventory, but they are watching their pennies, and Amazon only wants the top weekly game. Once again it is looking like the bumbling, stumbling Pac is coming up last. Uggh
You really have no idea whats being negotiated